And how many people did they ask GTech when conducting these surveys? 10, 100, 200, the whole muslim population? These statistical figures have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
You said that it doesn't say 'that'- (i assume you are taking about killing people in the name of God), then you said they can't be lying. Logically You can only have one of these opinions...
Yeah, probably so, huh? A random sampling "The survey spanned 1,200 Muslims in 30 of the country's 33 provinces." is never used to gain a perspective into the insight of what the people of a country believe. Just ask Bush! So if those numbers are wrong, 1 in 4 in the UK and 40% in Indonesia and 50% supporting bin laden, then how do you come up with the platitudes of "tiny minority" in the presence of overwhelming data that disputes such? Are you familiar with the term "cognitive dissonance?" Should that school in the UK continue to teach little children that Jews are apes and Christians are pigs? I mean, after all, it's the valid teachings of islam.
I'm stupid? That's big coming from you. You assumed incorrectly. I was talking about Islam saying you have to kill everyone. Logically, it seems you assumed (and got it wrong) and therefore all the fool you
There are nutcases out there who get unhinged and become serial murderers because 'god told them too' or 'they were controlled by the devil' in all walks of life. Let's take a look at another scenario. Billy plays D&D. He plays "Thokar, the unbearable" a Barbarian. Thokar is killed by a dragon, and as a result his band of heros is not quite able to rescue the town or the princess. Billy kills himself over the game. Did D&D cause billy to die? Or did Billy kill himself because he was unhinged to begin with? I think it was the latter. Now, if Billy's DM indoctrinated them to believe that they were their PCs, and that if their PCs ever died they had to kill themselves, then it would be the fault of Billy, and his DM, not TSR who is the maker of D&D, and puts out the rule books. TSR specifically states (and puts in it's publications) that D&D is only a game, and should be played for fun. Rochow: Sorry about that. I missed your reply post earlier. I was mostly referring to you knocking Muslims and the religion because a particular religious leader (even if he is a lead one in your nation) starts saying things about women that should get any gentleman's blood in an uproar. A liberated woman is not a Skank. And while the Austrailian codes of conduct (topless beaches?) are different from those here in America, I don't condemn people down there for having customs and ethos different from my own. However if a sun bathing beauty from Australia were to come to the USA during one of our summers, I WOULD expect her to follow the local ordinances regarding what an appropriate bikini is. By the same token, if local laws say that I, as a guy, can't wear shorts in certain places (like, say, when I visited the Vatican, no shorts allowed), I would have to comply. Still, if I understand the concept correctly, many Islamic men view encouraging or commanding women to wear conservative clothing is a way to protect their honor. I still don't think calling them Skanks is appropriate. As for my sarcasm, pointing out that working to come to an understanding and some kind of resolution to oppose a group that is a threat to us, at least socially, is better than creating division -does- help in my opinion, yes.
Technically, if a book says one thing. I.e. "This is bad" and someone believes in error that it says "This is good" and they then say that the book says "This is good" they are not lying, merely misinformed, or willfully ignorant.
We have those? Dude it's actually against the law in most beaches. There would only be a couple of nude beaches in Australia (if any). That is just a stereotype! If it was true I would be at the beach more often
Some more "tiny minority," on topic, straight from the UK: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5 Straight in line with the topic of the thread. Yet nokiaking says there is nothing to worry about. Well thank you, nokiaking, I'm sure that's exactly what these "tiny minority" want the kaffir of the UK to feel...nothing to worry about
My mistake. I think there are a couple over here in the states as well. I was under the mistaken impression that an Australian Bikini consisted of a bottom and a hat. *shakes fist at JAG the TV show, and the various other media and Internet pages that reinforced this notion*
Or lying, if they know what it says, but are ashamed and try to cover it up. The term taqiyya comes to mind. For example, when someone tries to insist that scriptures like these are "taken out of context."
I said believe in error as a basic premise of my post GTech. If someone believes something, and they espouse what they believe, they are not lying. If someone believes something, and espouses something contrary to that belief they are lying, even if what they say is the truth.
When did I call you stupid I know you were talking about how terrorists say that Allah tells them to kill.
As usual Gtec you do not want to understand what nokiaking says because you are scared and hysterical. I am including this link so it will help you understand a little better. most of us are trying to bring up points 7,8 and 9 to your attention http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/em1019.cfm I hope you keep these points in mind when you make your next post.
Incorrect, as usual. My post was in direct response to another post he made where he eluded to "because I say there is nothing to worry about." However, it doesn't surprise me anymore when you burst into a discussion on a topic for which you've openly admitted you have no knowledge about, to address me personally. Yes, I do observe patterns of certain posters
Please read the link to see what I and a lot of other people have been trying to point out to you. Let me say that I am in total agreement with every one of the points in it and I do not think it is either liberal or anti bush I hope you see the difference in its approach to your posts and why I see your post to be countering productive and objectionable. http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/em1019.cfm