Muslims Students Beat Professor and Wife for Refusing to Convert to Islam

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  1. #1
    This helps to explain why education in Islamic nations is in such poor shape:
    Christian Professor in Pakistan Beaten for Refusing to Convert

    PESHAWAR, Pakistan, June 25 (CDN) — Muslim students attacked a Christian professor at Peshawar University College this month after he refused their demand to convert to Islam, the instructor told Compass.

    Psychology professor Samuel John, a father of four who has been teaching at the college, located in Hayatabad, Peshawar, for 12 years, said that as he came out of his house on the campus of the private college at 8:30 a.m. on June 14, about 20 to 25 students rushed and assaulted him.

    “I shouted for help, but no one came to help,” he said.

    When his wife learned what was happening, she ran to help him, but the students beat her as well. Both John and his wife were rushed to Lady Reading hospital, where they were treated for their injuries, with John listed in critical condition.

    “I am still getting threats,” the professor told Compass. “They say, ‘Leave the university or accept Islam – if you don’t convert, we will kill your family.”

    Police have refused to register a First Information Report on the incident, he said.

    ...​

    No improvement in society can be expected when the police refuse to provide even rudimentary services to non-Muslims.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Of course not. If the police actually took reports about incidents like this, it would drive up hate crime and spousal abuse statistics for Muslims. We all know it is the religion of peace, so lets leave statistics of violence for the US.
     
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  3. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    OMG this is totally shocking!

    Oh, I'm sorry - did I say shocking? What I meant was predictable and common.

    I'm just waiting for someone to jump in and say "Those weren't REAL Muslims", "They were extremists/fanatics" or the ever-so-popular bitching that the media just must have twisted the story.

    >.<'
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    I wonder if it was Vebtools?
     
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    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    NO dude, i am just trying my best to dont take part in such topics where the religion is discussed, because i have noticed that the members who takes take part in religion threads are not following any religion. for me replying to those who has no respect for any religion, faith is totally use less.

    But i am and other Muslims members will be happy to read the post of "alexispetrov" finally we make at least one members to realized that Islam does not support to impose your religion to other.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    It's not us you need to convince, it's the millions of Muslims who support terrorism. Convince them and we will notice.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    I've written some OK posts lately about not all Muslims being this way, and many being against the atrocities committed against women and children in the name of Islam.

    That said - I'm pretty sure most Muslims wont like my above post. >.<' Sorry Vebtools.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    It is not the job of the person citing articles like this to add the disclaimer (*not all Muslims are like this). If more Muslims were willing to join in on threads like this, condemning the activities in no uncertain terms, the fact that all Muslims are not like this would be obvious. Instead, the response from Muslims on threads like this is always defensive of Muslims(not all Muslims are like this), and offensive towards the person reporting the news(why are you pointing out the offenses of Muslims). This culture of fear is something that has caught on with many non-Muslims in the west. One should never apologize or nuance for speaking out against evil, regardless of whether or not it implicates your religion.
     
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    The fact that they want to convert him is more than enough to show that they are blindly attached to their religion. But What if he does convert? Will he be living as faithful Muslim knowing that he made the right choice? What sort of an example are they giving other than the vicious mentality of Islam?

    Qur’an 9:29

    “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.”
     
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    If that really happened, those students should goto jail for their crime.

    But

    There is no University by the name of "Peshawar University College" in city of Peshawar (complete list of colleges and universities in Peshawar).

    However there is University of Peshawar and this is their Psychology department page (Former faculty members are also listed there). There is no Professor Samuel John listed.

    Only mention of "Peshawar University College" on Google is either from CDN or sites getting feed from CDN and now DP. This raise very serious doubts on the credibility of your source, Will. Looks like a hate site to me. :confused:
     
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    I am confused, why did you refers the ayaat of Quran which belong to Jazya (Capital tax)?

    Does its mean any logic in the thread?
     
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    News is a hoax. There is no "Peshawar University College", there is no Proff. Samuel John.
     
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    and not a single newspaper and website published this news any where except Anti Islamic Sites
     
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    I know. It's just that all the only semi-crazy Muslims seem more normal now because of the bat shit crazy ones. It's thrown me off. >.<'
     
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    #16
    ok let's quote from the Quran :
    2:256 "There is no compulsion in religion "

    Actions by Idiots are considered personal and Don't express Islam by anyway . And Most of / All other verses in Quran which speak about killing non believers are speaking about Defending yourselves , and how to deal with your enemy in the battlefield and I know many verses which tells not to attack anybody except if he attacked us but I can't remember them now . And I guess that every (sura) in Quran has a Reason for coming ( I can't post accurate words ) .

    And ok , I guess (but not sure ) there was a verse which says Keep fighting unless they convert to Islam , That doesn't mean to go and kill people and stop after they convert , Actually not , It means if your enemy surrendered and decided to be Muslims then Don't fight them .

    I know many people here misunderstood the Quran , And they'll keep annoying me . If you already made up your mind about Islam then Don't ask me anything because it would be a waste of time , If you are seeking information I'll try to help you though I don't know too much about Islam.
     
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    It's their own fault. Why should a civilized person go to those countries? It's a trivial common sense that you will go forward problems. It's like hiking in the mountain that are borders of Iran and Irak. I mean C'mon now...
     
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    Source is CDN mentioned by Will, not CNN. Institution mentioned in CDN article is "Peshawar University College" which don't exists. Clarification comes from 'University of Peshawar".

    Which actors on CNN you talking about?
     
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    thegr4 believes every time a Muslim does anything bad, it is actually an actor who is paid to do these things to make Islam look bad. He thinks terrorism is an invention of the media, no Muslim ever murders anyone and that in 1.5 billion Muslims there is supposedly ZERO child abuse EVER.

    He's off his fucking nut.
     
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    I never said that, bad people are in our religion as well but there number is far less, I mean farless than what media portrays.

    And those two people with face covered and carrying guns who appear in all killing video statements on Aljazeera and CNN are paid actors.
     
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