Muslims murdered 500 Christians - mostly children and women

This is happening usually because they are getting spoiled by TV shows etc. by seeing the things that non-Muslim women does, they are getting spoiled by non-Muslim women's Feminine and fancy word.

According to Qur'an Muslim men is advised to get married with a Muslim women. So, if a Muslim men accepts his wife as a Muslim then she wants to live like a non-Muslim women.

Men has to leave his religion for her ?, Men gets spoiled too ? What should Muslim Men does ? Kill her ? No.

Would beat at first if she corrects herself. At this point she has to make her decision. She might correct herself, if not, He pays her right and He lets her out.

Letting her out is very bad because She won't be taken by any other Muslim men, because they all wants to get married with a Muslim women. Also she will not be accepted by her Muslim family.
That is why it is not a crime in Islam.

If you are not Muslim, don't judge, you live whatever the way you like and believe.
But take your thong away from Muslim living and leave Muslims whatever they like and believe.
Muslims don't want your democracy and your law, and they don't have to live the way you do.
Further then this, is a reason for Cihad.

Be careful with your words:

According to Qur'an Muslim men is advised to get married with a Muslim women. []
After reading all of this, Are you trying to say All Muslim men is sick because they are trying to do what Qur'an advices ?

 

Yes it is barbaric to kill someone without a reason just for his/her religion. If you kill a Muslim then you will face the Muslim rules.

 

intro - it is allowed and it does happen; are you just too ignorant to acknowledge that? If you want I can give you 20 links to news stories from within the last year of girls under than age of 10 being forced to marry and in many cases being raped by their "husbands". I've never made a secret of the fact I hate Islam; I hate religion in general - I just can't stand the thought that a religion exists where women and children are systematically abused and no one seems to be willing to eliminate it.

wMaster99 - I don't understand the first part of your post; "This is happening usually because they are getting spoiled by TV shows etc. by seeing the things that non-Muslim women does, they are getting spoiled by non-Muslim women's Feminine and fancy word." - do you mean this is why women are raped, or why they wont report it? (Sorry, I genuinely didn't get which part of my statement you quoted above you are responding to.)

It sounds as though you are condoning the beating of Muslim women if they act as though they are free (Western) women - is this correct? That they may be beaten but then if they do not change their ways then "the husband must let them out"?


EDIT:

You posted as I was; "Yes it is barbaric to kill someone without a reason just for his/her religion. If you kill a Muslim then you will face the Muslim rules. "
If you kill a free person you will also have to answer to our rules. If you come into our countries and rape or hit our women you will have to face Western rules. If you come to MY country and you push your kiddy marriage, women beating, stonings, homophobia etc. onto MY people, you will have to face our rules. (In the last case you'd probably die here. We tend not to let people get away with abuse - we aren't cave men. We protect those who cannot protect themselves.)
To your question;
"After reading all of this, Are you trying to say All Muslim men is sick because they are trying to do what Qur'an advices ?"
I say that if you are asking me if every Muslim man who beats up on a woman is sick, then my answer is absolutely yes. There is no hesitation there are at all, if you hit a woman you should have the life beaten from you and your family taken away. You should live forever in jail with other men who will make you their bitch. That is my belief - maybe you don't hate people who hit women, but I, like every other person I call family, do.

If Muslims were to stay in their own countries then I would still care how they lived as I have known women trapped in such places - however it would not be something I felt quite as strongly about. The reason this is of such concern to so many of us it that Muslims keep coming into our free, Western societies and still refusing to live by our laws. A man was thrown out of my country because he believe women who are not Muslim and do not wear a veil deserve to be raped! Sick fuck.

As to watching what I say, why don't you? If you take offense to me saying Muslims beating women is "truly sick stuff" I daresay it is you with the issue, not me.

 

I don't need to answer you. As you have clearly showed up your point is not for learning on Islam in interest.

Live with your rules and take away your thong from Muslim living and rules.

 

When Muslim living is confined to Muslim countries and you stop being expansionists, then this might not be something I feel the need to argue about.

Until that day, if you post here and ask questions you can expect to have questions asked of you as well.

That said, the fact you condone wife beating, amongst other things, is pretty deplorable - there are some Muslims here who don't.

EDIT:

If you're leaving the thread, here's a parting song for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qqbaxcWDI

 

There is nothing about religion,they had better remove muslim from the headline. We can say that christians or other religions dont kill people. I think those type of events are for creating new conflicts between religions.God bless us

 

Then you had to say about the Muslims coming to your country. Not about all Muslim men.
And it is something up to your countries' Law, you have to argue this with your Governors and reconsider your Countries' visitor accepting Laws.
I will not argue my religion.

 

I never really believed that you are capable of understanding the difference between X and Y, so I'm not all too surprised.

But anyway, lets try again:
I did not quote the quran. We are not talking about Judaism or Islam.
We were talking about what the muslims do now, today, their inability to control the primitive urge of old men to have sex with teenagers - and use the quran to justify it.
The jewish people does not allow its children to be legally raped, they never had actually, while many muslims do just that, and always have. Scriptures aside. capish?

So you didn't "show" anything, apart from your inability to coherently debate and make real arguments on the topic of the debate which you rarely even understand in that big salad running in your head.

p.s. Where did I talk about "Islam and the prophet"? oops... never did I in this thread... but yea... gworld...

I am an atheist. I swear to god.

*aHem*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us4jJ650vi8 , for example.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7711554.stm
need more? google "child marriage islam" and variations of that keyword and enjoy the news.

 

al Bakarah 221 : Those invite [you] to the Fire.
al Bakarah 221 : different languages

 

This has be deal countless time with.

[video=youtube;VbqJeIXY7Rg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbqJeIXY7Rg[/video]

[video=youtube;wXdRMOHwxrY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXdRMOHwxrY[/video]

[video=youtube;ziTv6mINoAc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziTv6mINoAc[/video]

See, I refute you again. Ha!

 

wMaster99 - My country has no issue with Muslims, because we don't allow them to change our laws, but while there are people out there beating women and the like you must remember this fantastic quote; "All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".

awins - He has made it clear that he does condone wife beating, as I said there are some Muslims who do not. How exactly do you take offense to that? He DID condone it (read his post) and there are SOME Muslims who do NOT condone it - supposedly such as yourself, I think, you've never actually said.

EDIT: If you can post videos of some random Muslim guy with AWFUL English trying to say wife beating is wrong, why are videos posted of Muslim clerics saying it is right any less valid?

 

Wife Beating In Islam. A Widespread Misconception. parts 1-2-3 (RECOMMENDED FOR NON-MUSLIMS)

So you have refuted Me. I have ended up my talking with Ayat.
It seems that you are trying to refute Qur'an. Fine for me.
Allah will refute you to the hell. HaHaHa

 

Alexis, it's not like every muslim man beats wife, and I'm agains't that, and some countries are too (where muslims live), Bosnia, Turkey.. About rape, I was talking about Muhamed, not other, so we didn't understand each other.

I'm also agains't killing, those USA death sents, and in Arabia too - as I think, no one is allowed to kill somebody, but yes in self-defence, because otherwise you're acting like a God, prison is good enough.

Regards.

 

So you are saying it is good for Judges and Jury who gives some punishment like acting ...

 

Only under certain conditions.

 

wMaster99 - I wasn't talking to you as you've already made it clear we can't have a discussion as I'll answer your questions but you wont answer mine; I was only saying to awins that some Muslims support wife beating and some do not - it frustrates me she claims that Muslims do not condone it and it is wrong, yet the Qu'ran does not say so.

intro - your last post was good, clear and logical. I like it. I'd rep you on it but that's pointless as reps in here are blue not red or green anyways. I'm very happy that you do not condone wife beating. (Honestly.)

I also agree that generally, unless indeed it is true self defense or the like, that prison is better than killing someone. I do believe some people should be killed however, such as those who rape kids for example - but that is because when they get out of prison they will do it again. However I don't think most others should be killed, prison does tend to be good enough.

 

Master, someone must act God in good of people, but it's not the same to say - let's kill this man and let's close him in prison.

Alexis, those who are raping children are probably not OK, when I say this, I mean they have health problems (I dont know how do you say - the psihological problem?), but if there are evidences he raped the children he will not get out of prison, he will get lifetime sence, Im not sure because Im not good with law (and there, he will be raped by others ).

I'm agains't killing because people can be wrong, people made mistakes, who are you to say he's gonna die (just put yourself in situation). And in these days, it's really easy to set up someone to look-like as guilty.

 

Moderators, how could you allow a thread that is directly attacking a religion and in retaliation others are attacking each others religion? This is strange!

 

We say "a psychological problem", but you were very close. I agree that this is often true, although the problem is that a life sentence does not normally mean life - usually they get out after a long time, but eventually when they are or sick they do get out - and sadly even though they are old they often still abuse children, or use child porn - which is a form of child abuse. I am glad you think it is good that he would have a very bad time in prison, that makes me happy.

I do think that it is wrong to kill people for many things; like if someone murders someone else say, in a huge argument or something, that is a terrible mistake but I don't think they should die. The only people I think should die are people who know what they are doing is wrong but do it anyway, hurting others badly, and who will reoffend if they are ever given the chance.

EDIT:
mirisaamali you posted while I was typing this up; the point of this section is to debate, the MODs do know what is going on and will close it when the time is right. Currently it is more of a debate, especially given some common ground being found between some of us.

 

If you point me in your sentence personally or generally, I have my right to clear up myself. Not for you for Public. It doesn't matter who you are talking to.