Muslims murdered 500 Christians - mostly children and women

She told me she is atheist.

 

Vebtools, no, as I said above I'm not religious - I prefer science and logic, and doing the right thing for yourself rather than because you're scared of some dude up in the sky.

intro, I believed the question was about 9/11 - I didn't see the part about my name. Are you referring to the fake free press release by that nigerian scammer from internet cloning? If so, yes, he was talking about me - it's a total fabrication, but honestly it doesn't bother me - there are far worse things to be than a prostitute. Lol. Is that what you are talking about? If you google his name you'll find he does these free press releases about anyone he doesn't like - he scammed a member here at DP and me and another member, Mervin Koops, called him out on it - it was over $2000 - he got very angry - it was the funniest thread ever, but yes, he kept doing free press releases because he was so upset

The thing about my partner was personal, I know it wasn't a question - my point was don't make personal assumptions - this is politics.

Oh and Vebtools, I don't agree with any religious texts - not Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Scientology, etc. None of them.

 

I am confused you believe on science its mean you believe on scientists, have you ever study who was the fisr scientists of the world? It was Muslims just google it or open your school time books

you are atheist, its mean no rules? am i right

 

Yes, she is atheist

 

as much as i know every thing allow in atheist, coz there is no rules.. they can do any thing, raping, busing etc

they just follow county law.. is it that?

 

In the female human creation is made from adam's rib, so why men rank higher/degree than women.
But Islam does not consider the low degree of women. Rasulullah said, "heaven is in the mother's feet' is one of the Islamic evidence exalt women. and in same time Healso said, "respect your mother thenn your mother than your mother .... and then your dad",It's beautiful women's rights in Islam.
TAKE LOOK:
"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, great (above you all).' ( surah 4:34)

"Intestate you in a good way to women because they were made from a crooked rib. And indeed the most crooked part of the rib that is the very top. If you are going to be hard to straighten it and you shall be forced to break her and if you let him so he will always be crooked. So you well intestate to women" ( Hadist Rasulullah, By Bukhari, Muslim)


"you are the leaders and all leaders are responsible for all leadership. And each is a leader in charge, and he was the leader of the capacity of skills, and she is the guardian of her husband and her children, then all you are the leader responsible for the people ". (Bukhari, Muslim)

SO, Thus Islam requires men to get along Ihsan (good) with his wife (WOMAN). Conversely Islam also told his wife that dutiful faithful to her husband in lawful limits. Thus the story of the love of husband and wife love always within the limits of grace. God willing, will remain permanent. Amen.

FREE SEX, LIVING TOGETHER WITHOUT MARRIED it's really really very degrading the dignity of women. and it's shown by western country that saying would appreciate the dignity of women. Ii's really embarrassing facts.

 

Vebtools, being an Atheist doesn't mean no rules - it does mean no rules from old books, gods, etc. because we don't believe that god/s exist. As an atheist I still follow (most) laws - the exceptions to that are about personal liberty; for example marijuana is illegal in my country, but that wont stop me from enjoying it once or twice a year.
When I say I believe in science, logic, etc - I mean being rational in terms of religion and my own belief system.
It isn't that I believe in every individual scientist, it is that I believe evolution is required for the human race to continue - like, I believe in stem cell research because I believe we need a cure for a number of childhood diseases, as well as things like AIDS, cancer, etc.

Also, you are mistaken - Atheists do not allow rape and the like, but not because some god that may or may not exist tells us so. Every culture and religion has people within it who commit such horrible crimes, but no more Atheists are rapists than Muslims. People who do that kind of thing do so because they themselves are bad people. Atheists are simply normal, good people who do not believe in god/s. (Also in Atheist countries we have laws AGAINST wife beating, rape, sex with children, etc. - you will find most Atheists willing to kill wife beaters, rapists and pedophiles if they could get away with it.)

suprayitno_d - Living together and sleeping together without being married is not the same as free sex - free sex is when you have sex with anyone and everyone, all the time. Two people here can be in a committed relationship, in love, having sex - before they get married. This is not degrading to women - in our culture marriage is romantic and for two people who are in love, and only two people - we find the right person, spend time together then get married - there is no stigma here if someone is not married and does not wish to be married; in your culture old women who do not get married seem to be looked down upon.

 

@alexispetrov
if you are atheist, that's okay. But why you only do Anti-Islamic comments or why you don't like Muslims? Do you have similar feeling about other religions or only Islam? Probably only Islam...

 

you sad you don't believe on GOD and then you are saying some God tell you don't do this, you are confused about your own belief, there is no rules in Atheists coz they does not believe life after death (heaven, hell etc)

you are saying marijuana is illegal but you are still using it, same in other case, rape is illegal, then why punishment for it? if you can do one illegal act then why restriction to other one?


when you talk about science you must know about it, it was Muslims who was first in science

Atheists no rules, just do every thing even sleep with father or rape

 

------SO Why you didn't married, if your culture say that is romantic.-------

In islam and many east culture" free sex and living together made a woman like not be worthless and immoral"...........Can you imagine when you pregnant, your spouse leave forever.?to be shame. beside that You must single parent and yourchild when he/she growth up ask, where is my father.? you cannot tell anything.

 

marriage is just Romance??? then why did you marry you can do this with out it. what words you use!! yeah "FREE SEX" you can do this without marry, why you guys marry?

Free sex brings HIV, AIDS.. is in it?

 

This question is great, I forgot to ask her this - You said you were never Christian, that means your parents are also Atheists?
About sex before marrige, well, why you guys have loads of devorces, because you find out he/she slept with some other guy/girl, even if that happened before marrige.
I suggest you go to the forum of these people (with the same avatars), and ask if something isn't clear to you, or study, because you can find loads of usefull things.

 

Good thing I don't believe in such bollocks, isn't it?

No offense, but why? There is a zero chance I would ever convert to islam. However, if you want to send me Pakistani recipes you can PM me.

LOL, excellent post. I think the quran needs a major rewrite. Take out all that hateful stuff, perhaps add in something better. Did you ever see the LOLCats version of the bible?

 

Rebecca, as far as I know, Bible is that one which has few versions, and has awfull story about how it was written, so don't tell us about Qur'an .
And if you're atheists, you would probably hate something in Chatolic's religion as well, but you're not, guess what .

 

Pakistan is a backward country but what you post is too much of a nonsense even for illiterates in Pakistan.

 

samser - I don't like any religion, I believe that religion is frequently a breeding ground for all kinds of horrid things - however yes, I do hate Islam more than any other religion because so far in my life they have been continually the most despicable. (This might one day change.)

Vebtools - being an Atheist and being a criminal are two different things. Atheists believe in logic and science, rapists believe it is fine to abuse women. If you use a "" face one more time while making the false claim that Atheists support rape, etc, I will not answer you again - I wont leave the thread, but I will ignore you, at least until you stop saying things that are categorically untrue. Statistically speaking, rape is committed more (at least in my country, I can't speak for the US or UK) by religious people than those without a religion.

supraynito_d - We will get married, in the next year or so. As to kids, only bad people leave a pregnant partner, that is nothing to do with religion. That said, we wont be having kids I don't think, the world is not exactly a nice or happy place to raise children these days. (Also, you still don't know what "free sex" means, do you? Again, it is not having sex outside of marriage, it's entirely more promiscuous. Please look it up before using it incorrectly again. Kthx.)

Vebtools (again) - We will get married because we are in love and have decided it is time Free sex doesn't spread AIDS either, that is a myth. Only unprotected sex can spread AIDS - does your country have sexual education? (Also you seem to be confused as to what free sex means too, maybe look it up as well?)

intro - why do you want to know my parent's religions? Whether or not I answer depends on the attitude behind asking, as again it is more personal than political, isn't it? Also the divorce rate for Atheists is NOT higher than religious people when you examine it percentage wise; although obviously in Muslim countries divorce rates are lower than in the west because you can commit "honor killings".

Gworld great post and Rebecca, yours was perfect as always. Checking out the LOLcats now

 

Alex, because I'm checking if you lied, as you already told me you were never Christian, that means and when you were born.. You didn't answer on the question - is there anything you don't like in Bible, because more people think that that Book has more holes then Qur'an (none as far as I know).

 

Ah.... Firstly, you aren't checking if I lied. You're an idiot, lol. I'd like to point out certain people do not force their children into their religion; perhaps neither parent was religious. Perhaps one was and one wasn't. How does this effect you in the slightest?

I already said that there is plenty I don't like in the Bible - there is plenty I don't like in every "holy" book.

 

You are very correct.

@alexispetrov

You are prompting very frequently regarding rape - specially from Muslim people. But what statistics says - do you know? Let me help you to show, take a look http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita. If Muslims do rape too much then we should see many Islamic countries on the top of the list- isn't it?

Then why are you also making the false claim too regarding Islam? Do you think only you know whats wrong and whats right.... do you think top countries in the list follow Islam or there are at least 50% Muslims... religions people do more this kinda thing--- again a false claim... this statistics clearly shows there are lower rape crime reports in Islamic country, Saudi at the bottom!

Personally I do believe you are a nice person, since you don't support any crimes... I do the same! But alexispetrov do you think all antheists have similar manner like you? No, not at all! Why, because there are no rules. I have many Christian, Muslims and Hindu friends as well as buyers, most of them are good but not all, we know all people are not good. Whether a person is a good or a bad, does not depend upon his/her beliefs or faith. May be s/he claims to be a religious but may not follow the religion properly! If a Muslim do crime, I never ever support him/her, similarly a Christian or Hindu or Atheist.

Why does people follow a religion? We know you have to study a lot on this... just ignoring someone or claiming you are the best and all religious people are bad... Islam is shit... horror killing (another false claim ) or blah blah.... you would never come to a conclusion.

You believe in logic and Science... thats also good. I do the same like thousands of Muslims. If we are making false claim regarding antheists then you are making thousand times more false claim regarding us specially Muslims. No offense, I am sorry if something hurts you, I request you please don't comment on anything without proper knowledge, as I do, before comment on other beliefs I would surely go for the original holy book, never come to a conclusion by looking at outside or followers and finally I would like to let you know that its Quran which is still unchanged for last 1400 years, and modern science is very much compatible with Quran, no other holy book.

PS: Again I don't want to hurt anybody beliefs or faith. But please don't comment if you don't know something

 

LOL. Rape is not reported that often in Muslim countries because you all too frequently beat up women (flog them, etc) for being a victim. It's horrible. It happened last month in Dubai, truly sick stuff.

Atheists are no more likely to commit crimes, I appreciate you understand I'm a good/nice person, (honestly I do,) but you also need to understand that Atheists still have rules, they are just not dictated by gods, which is where your rules come from.

You think that I don't have "proper knowledge" because we disagree - that doesn't upset me, it's politics - but just don't tell me honor killings don't happen - because of what happens to women who are raped, or who get divorced, in Muslim countries the rates of divorce are of course lower - also the report of rape is unlikely. I can provide you with a link of an ordeal a British woman went through recently in Saudi Arabia after being raped if you disagree.