Muslims in next 40 years and the strange world we are living in

Everything you said is accurate enough according to your belief except:

"Christians believe that Jesus (PBUH) was son of GOD as he was born out of a virgin lady, but in reality they misinterpreted him, Jesus (PBUH) never claimed himself to be God, or son of God".

There are lots of events that Jesus claimed himself as the Christ and Son of God.

Lets look at a couple of events from the New Testament:

1) When Jesus got baptized (he did not need to because he was not sinful but to teach us), a voice was heard from the sky "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Now, to truly interpret the meaning of this - we need to get into the roots of what the Holy trinity is (Father, Son and holy spirit).

2) When Jesus asked peter(his disciple), "Who do the people think I am?" peter answered, "Some say you're John the Baptist. Others say you're Elijah. Others say you're one of the prophets back from the grave." Now, Jesus asked a follow up question: "Who do you think I am?" Peter answered. "I think you're the Christ, the son of the living God!"

Nobody can claim Jesus is the son of God without the holy spirit

That is why Jesus answered:

"How good God has been to you, Simon!" he said. "You didn't come to that conclusion because of others, but because my Father revealed it to you. You are Peter. On this rock I'm going to found my church and even the grave won't be able to defeat it. I'm going to give you the keys to heaven. Anything you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven and you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven." He then gave Peter and the others strict instructions to tell no one that he was the Christ.

God bless,

 

and yet they had the courage to disregard god's will. or he told them not to repeat this nonsense and they did anyway

it could mean that only holy spirit can make such claims and nobody else.
could it be that jesus was upset that they have called him these things and wanted it stopped?

 

This is what I am saying. The original scriptures of what Jesus (PBUH) told his followers were destroyed, and the recompilation of all those scriptures began about 350 years after his apparent death. And the source of those scriptures were the people themselves. So some of the scriptures were modified, some lost and some added intentionally.
If you see original version of bible (the first and oldest version), it does not say anything about Jesus (PBUH) as son of God, he did say that: No one can go to heaven except the ones who follow my father the God (dont know exact wording), but here the word father does not mean as literally a father, metaphorically we are all his sons (his creations), but genetically, its not true, so it was said in metaphorical sense but those people were not able to absorb this sentence.
About the holy ghost, there is no such thing as holy ghost, Jesus never said its a holy ghost that will come and tell the truth later as people of current age can not absorb what I have to say. He was talking about a human, a prophet, which Muslims believe as the final Messenger Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), as you can see in that sentence, the word "He" is used 6 times. Do you use a "He" to describe a ghost.
See the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcMzHgq2zRo
Watch all 22 videos.

 

you are reading into it just like he is.

 

Please be honest with yourself.
First, you claimed that in the bible Jesus never said he was the son of God.
I got you the exact verses.
Now, You give me "the original scriptures were destroyed baloney". Give me a proof they were destroyed.
So did the Quran.

Tell me about the original version of the bible you're talking about. What is the difference? Is the only difference towards your side?
Father does not mean literally a father? You're interpreting this on what basis and what qualifications?
Name me any prophet or religious person who described himself as son of God or Son of father. Nobody can claim they are the son of God except Jesus.

Regarding the holy spirit:

"Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait there for the gift my Father promised, the gift of which I told you. John baptized with water, but in a few days' time you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit"

 

It is a part of history, just read the history of what bible, also watch the debates of Deedat vs beptits on youtube.
These are not my words, If bible is true words of God then why is there so many scientific errors in it, even in simple plain mathematics, there is addition errors!
You think God doesn't know mathematics?
In contrary not a single verse in Quran is in contradiction to science.

 

I wouldn't watch the videos as I don't like the way they act

 

next 40 years, muslems will be hanging large portrait of Muhammad on their walls he's good looking

 

What kind of scientific errors? Backup your statements with verses from the bible so I can answer you accordingly.

So, after your Quran described earth as a leveled plain (not round or orbital), ants talking to humans, semen released from back of the body & Sun Set occurs in a spring/black sea - You still claim there are no scientific errors.

Did you see how Deedat painful death ended? You'd know he was definitely not a man to be followed.

 

It's gonna be a tough job to save the muslims from the quran teachings, but not impossible. With the help of God it will happen.

 

See the full video of this debate, it can be the most important 4 hours of your life:

[video=youtube;fw3do0TLv6o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3do0TLv6o[/video]

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[video=youtube;uZs6MpIUhAQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs6MpIUhAQ[/video]

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Errors in bible are discussed with respect to their verse numbers, so you can check it from bible.
About Deedat death, Allah has choose the way of death for everyone. Life of true believers is indeed painful, so is their death. If you only knew what reward they will get in return of that pain, you would have wished for the same pain throughout your life. Because life is a test of faith, its not a place for enjoyment.

 

I need to start a company with employees that believe this way. Work em into the ground making jeans or tennis shoes or something. I could have a sign over the sweat shop floor, "Life is a test of faith, not a place for enjoyment!". Thanks Thegr4! You've given me another wonderful business idea! I'm very optimistic on the Mohammad toilet paper as well!

 

I would rather you summarize some of what you've learned from the videos and tell me here. That being said, I have skimmed over the first two videos to see what he actually says. Don't be fooled when anyone with a "Dr." in front of his name coming out speaking about the bible.

One of the things he said in the second video is that the bible is not accurate because it is mentioned "all plants & fruits are edible"

"Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."

What the above means is that God gave us all kind of plants and fruits. He gave the human the authority on all of them.. But does that mean we should eat anything that does harm to the body? Let me ask you, how do you know a plant is poisonous? Usually either by experience or prior knowledge. The bible taught us two things : 1) Any sort of harm to the body is a sin
2) To be Wise. For instance, What about Alcohol? Meats? They can be harmful too. So God didn't know about them?

In Christianity, we follow this rule: "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial". Corinthians 10:23

In other words, we are allowed to eat anything because God gave us power and authority on all foods of earth but not everything is beneficial; therefore, you have to be wise.

It's amazing how they focus on such little things and ignore the obvious false teachings in the Quran.

 

"They will be yours for food." means you can eat them. Food means something that goes into your body and nourishes. You cant call poison a food do you? and its your God who does not even know the difference between food and poison? He is the creator of those plants.
If you are a true Christian believer then you should not get affected by drinking deadly poison, according to bible, can you take the poison test? Or ask your bishop to do it.
Now lets come to unfulfilled prophecies in Bible:
Chapter 4 verse 12: God told Cane you will be a wanderer (never be able to settle).
Few verse later Verse 17: Cane build up a city.
How can you explain this. Bible contradicting its own prophecy!
36:30 No one would sit on David's throne after Jehoiakim
24:6 Jehoiakim after he died Jehokim sat.
Bible contradicting its own prophecy!
If this is the word of God then how come there's so much controversy in its own sayings. Even a single contradiction means its not the word of God, God's words are flawless.
I can give more if you like. You can see video # 3 and 4 in which Zakir gives explanation to Dr. Cambell claims, I dont have to write it.

The reason I am spending my time on you is that I believe that you are a sincere person you have the love of God, but you are misguided. Its my responsibility being a Muslim to correct you. I know its one of the difficult thing in the world to change your believes the things you've been taught in your lifetime cant just go away in a matter of days.

 

Poison test? Show me the verse from the bible indicating there is a poison test. Christianity is not based on challenging God. It is based on Faith.
Maybe this will make it a bit clear.
When Jesus stood on top of the mountain/temple, Satan sneaky way of using Psalm 91 to order Jesus to throw himself down.
"For he will order his angels to protect you in all you do. They will lift you up in their hands, so you will not slip and fall on a stone."
Lets see what did Jesus say?
"You must not put the Lord your God to the test."

This was to also show us that we are not in a position to challenge God- not even with a poison test.

Now, back to your so called "unfulfilled prophecies" of the bible.
Point 1: God told Cane you will be a wanderer

To better explain this, lets look at Adam, Abraham, Moses ect. They were all followers of God. God guided them into a blessed land and freed them from trouble but if any disobeyed God, he punished them.
If you read the follow up verse talking about Cane, you'll understand that Dr. Zakir misunderstood it.

Same thing with Cain. God blessed him a land with good soil and FULL OF GOD's presence.

1st: Cane committed a big sin.
Consequence: God punished him by driving him away from "THE EARTH" or "THE LAND" or "THE SOIL" that was blessed by God. Check several translations for this. Not from "THE WHOLE EARTH".

"Therefore you shall be banned from the soil that opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand".
"If you till the soil, it shall no longer give you its produce. You shall become a restless wanderer on the earth."

"Cain said to the LORD, 'My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from THE LAND, and I will be hidden FROM YOUR PRESENCE; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.' But the LORD said to him, 'Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over. Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. So Cain went out FROM THE LORD's PRESENCE and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden." Genesis 4:13-15

So, Cain had no Choice but to leave God's presence & the Good given blessed land to go make his "own land without God's presence"


Regarding David's & Johakeim throne:

This is what God said:
"‘The time is coming,’ declares the LORD, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,’ declares the LORD. ‘This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,’ declares the LORD"

Yes, thegr4, I am spending my time because I believe you're a good man but unfortunately, you're totally misguided by wrong interpretations of both Bible and the Quran. I will pray for you that one day you shall know the truth, the light and accept Jesus Christ. I believe you're one of God's sheeps that got lost away from the herd but needs a little Guidance. In God's will, you will be blessed and join the herd of life.

"And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd" John 10:15