Muslim Religious Views

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Cyrus255, Apr 10, 2006.

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    "Those who reject Islam are the vilest of creatures and thus deserve NO mercy!" Qur'an 98:6

    Qur'an 47:4 Allah "commands to smite the necks of the unbelievers!"

    "O Prophet! Strive HARD against the Unbelievers and hypocrites, and BE FIRM against them! Their abode IS HELL, an evil refuge indeed!" Qur'an 9:73

    What Mohammad said of his uncle and family:
    "May the hands of Abu Lahab PERISH! May he himself perish! NOTHING shall his wealth and gains avail him. he shall be BURNT in a flaming fire, and his wife, laden with faggots, shall have a rope of fibre around her neck!" Qur'an 111:1-5.

    We are not dealing with the extremists. We are dealing with the Muslim religion. A religion that advocates the conversion or death of christians, athiests, agnostics, buddhists, hindu's, alike.
     
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  2. CedarCity

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    duh... Tell us something we didnt already know.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Resistance is futile.
     
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  4. kashem

    kashem Banned

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    #4

    I am sure you do not have enough knowledge in Islam, Mahamood (peace upon him), the qouran to make such comments.


    You see only the two or three lines here with that you can not understand the whole picture.

    I will rather suggest you to read about Islam,quaran,Mahamood (peace upon him), his uncle.

    We do not hate anybody, any religion, all are the creation of Allah, and Allah loves those who love his creation.

    You unerstand politics I am sure, who have made those Osama every one knows but some do not like to admit.


    Though you are hard but I am not to you. I pray for your well being
     
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  5. Blitz

    Blitz Well-Known Member

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    How can you read those quotes, which are 100% clear and can't be 'taken out of context' and then say that they're not true?
     
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    kashem Banned

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    "Those who reject Islam are the vilest of creatures and thus deserve NO mercy!" Qur'an 98:6 
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    Yes it is the base of Islam. I am sure in any religion for any misdoing you will put to justice after your death. Here No Merchy does not mean that ISlam brute. it is about how Allah sees the wrong doing.All muslim are also the same. The way some muslims are fighting no true muslim like them.Even we hate them more than non muslims. They try to kill some Non muslims but they kill image of every muslims and image of islam, so they are casuing more damage to us.

    Qur'an 47:4 Allah "commands to smite the necks of the unbelievers!" 
    
    
    "O Prophet! Strive HARD against the Unbelievers and hypocrites, and BE FIRM against them! Their abode IS HELL, an evil refuge indeed!" Qur'an 9:73 
    
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    the words come to Prophet from Allah. You have to read in which situation it came to him. If he was in war, what other words you expect. It is sure he did not smite neck of the unbelievers evey minute he lived. You know it is the unbelievers who gave him shelter and make him president of Madina


    "May the hands of Abu Lahab PERISH! May he himself perish! NOTHING shall his wealth and gains avail him. he shall be BURNT in a flaming fire, and his wife, laden with faggots, shall have a rope of fibre around her neck!" Qur'an 111:1-5
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    Ya most interesting part is this. You know what his uncle and aunt did to him. they tortured him so much for so many years. But he never became rude to them, never try to take revenge. On the other hand he prayed for them. You know Mahamood will not enter to the Heven without his uncle.


    I am dam sure you perception about Islam will be totally diffenent you if you read about this story.

    Other than Islam, every one also has history. History of wars, invading others land,

    and presenly what about killing innocent people all around the world.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    That pretty much sums it up. Someone gets it! Damn!
     
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    Well I reject Islam, Am I one of the vilest creature? Obviously.

    Still, I don't think that we have the right to take their book away from them. If this is what they believe, then let them do so. It's not my problem. I still hope that most moslems don't take this quote literally.

    100 years ago, a book called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" promoted hatred against jews. The book have been promoting it activily since then and is still a bestseller today in the whole world. It's also used for educational proposes in Syria. It is based under the foundation on some questionable torah quotes.

    The book has coused much hatred which have promoted progroms and nazism which have lead to massive killings of jews.

    This critique of Islam is similar to the one you can read in the book I mentioned above. Is it really worth to spread the hatred? Judge yourself.

    kashem, I feel sorry about you. Your effort is useless, because you can't give any proof that this is wrong, but rather make some excuses. The best way to promote your religion and your culture is to stay away from this section and trying to be a good and helpful man in the other sections. Peace upon you!
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    The Bible's Views

    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

    We are not dealing with the extremists. We are dealing with the Christian religion. A religion that advocates the conversion or death of everyone not christian, the murder of rape victims, the murder of homosexuals, men, women and children alike.

    Murder NON BELIEVERS:(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.


    Murder NON BELIEVERS AGAIN:(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.


    MURDER HOMOSEXUALS:(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."


    ITS OK TO RAPE: (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)
    If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

    Hmm.. if a woman is raped, her father gets paid, and she has to marry the man who rapes her. How nice of God.


    DEATH FOR FORNICATION:(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.


    DEATH FOR HITTING:(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.


    KILL FOLLOWERS OF OTHER RELIGIONS.
    1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

    2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.
    (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

    GOD WANTS YOU TO HAVE SLAVES:
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)


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    Are any of you dummies getting a clue yet?
    ALL RELIGIONS ARE BAD, INCLUDING YOURS.
     
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  10. Mia

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    Oh, crap, here comes the Old Testament again... Sigh.....
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... so you can pick what version of God's word and what version of the Bible you wish? :rolleyes:

    I love your double standards mia. Yawn. :cool:

     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Nope. That is not the way it works. If you had an inkling of brain activity that did not include ignoring reality you would realize that. I'm not going to explain it to you.

    No double standard. I just happen to have read the "Bible". It's one of my faults. I like to read. I'm reading "Marely and Me" currently, and am almost done. Next up is "Empire Falls". I'd suggest reading the "Bible", or at least taking some type of class on theology before spouting out about that which you have not taken time to digest.

    The Old Testament does not apply. Even an atheist could tell you that. From a literary standpoint, the "Bible" is an interesting and challenging read. If I were you though I would start with "Hooked on Phonics" first. That or "See Dick Run."
     
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    All religion is B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    And to think I had to be subjected to years of Catholic School to learn that. Talk about torture ;)
     
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    Diddo to Ly2
     
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    The greatest cause of death and destruction is Religion. Like I have said many times before. God is dead
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Perhaps, but in a few days, he will rise again ... Happy Easter no matter what your religious beliefs!
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Didn't take long for the "all {insert something here}" to creep into the topic. "All" as a common denominator seems to be reserved for islam topics, for some reason.

    And look at yo-yo go! Trying to change the topic by covering up the evils of islam with sources from evilbible. That takes skill :D
     
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    Too bad he cites the Old Testament again, and again, and again...
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    The Old Testament is all any good Christian basher has. Just ask gworld :)
     
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