Muslim here to answer your questions

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kevluigi, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. jodyq

    jodyq Peon

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    #101
    and the terror in mumbai is kashmir related, 2 countries fighting for a small little country. but hey lets blame muslims shall we. when s korea flips hey we can blame the muslims won't that be nice. or if mexico goes nuts hey lets blame muslims, just because people ask for americans and brittish to be executed those are the 2 most hated types of people in the world it would not have mattered if they were muslims they were to be killed because it was their time to go.
     
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  2. robjones

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    #102
    M5 - The existence of anti-American propaganda on the net isnt exactly earthshattering news. I dont suppose it has occurred to you that it isnt even in our interest to assassinate academics in Iraq. Nice try, but you need to wrap the tinfoil tighter before the CIA pinpoints your location. They're getting closer.

    Jody - You're comparing ancient history to actual news stories. I'll show you a stack of very credible news sources for honor killings including photos of the dead, or photos of homosexuals hung on orders of Islamic courts. If you can match that with photos of Old Testament punishments being implemented by our government, let me know.
     
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    M5love Well-Known Member

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    #103
    Now it's all propaganda. Alright, I don't even need to waste my time on you. One more ignorant. But trust me, Americans are waking up to that horrifying fact that they have blood on their hands. Some try to shove it off as propaganda, I understand it's hard to admit the facts.

    and for your info, this isn't propaganda, it's all true. Wonder why Saddam didn't assassinate so many... only makes think..
     
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  4. kaethy

    kaethy Guest

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    #104
    No, we do not all have a belief in god. Some people are atheists, some people are Buddhist.

     
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    #105
    Ummm... a Muslim group has claimed responsibility. Are you suggesting we blame someone else to be politically correct?

    So your theory is when Americans / Brits are executed we dont blame the actual perpetrators, we just chalk it up to unpopularity? OK, I'm working on a theory of my own... have you ever eaten any paint chips?
     
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    moe374 Active Member

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    #106
    Unfortunately, the amount of anti-american propaganda on the internet is not enough to balance out the propaganda which exists in America.

    It is now well known that the case made by the US for the war in Iraq was fraudulent (and if you dont know this, do your research, dont be ignorant). This in itself justifies all the anti-american propaganda on the internet. I am still amazed that no action has been taken against the US for this fraudulant war. How many people, americans and iraqis have been killed by this war? As unfortunate as the US soldier deaths are, soldier deaths are expected in a war, and the US very well knows that there will be casualties in any war. Whats sad however is the number of innocent civilians (inclduing childred) who were killed by this war. What about the killings of prisoners of war at the Abu Gharib prison? Did you know the soldiers who were involved in those incidents were jailed NOT for murdering the prisoners, but for TAKING PICTURES of it. Basically, what the US military was saying here was "you can murder prisoners, just dont take any pictures or produce any evidence".

    Acts of violence terrible in all circumstances, I am just saying, there is alot of evil occuring in the world today, it is not just the muslims who are commiting these acts, unfortunately the US likes to focus only on those acts performed by Muslims.

    I, as a muslim, strongly believe that ANY person who kills innocent people, including Al-Qaida, and any other similar group, is NOT a muslim. However, I also think that people have a right to fight in defence in cases where their land is invaded and their homes are destroyed and their family members are killed. I'm sure any person here will agree that if a foreign country comes into your country, destroying your homes and your land, starts bringing their own people in to live there, starts ruling your land (and you now have to live under their rule), i'm sure you would fight against this OPPRESSION.
     
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    #107
    Saddam Hussein invaded Kuiwait in Gulf War I and attacked the Kurds in the "No Fly War"

    The French, Germans and Russians gave hope to the insurgents. There would have been a lot less loss of life in Iraq if the International Community stood up to Saddam Hussein and the Bathist Regime.
     
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  8. moe374

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    #108
    I for one do not support Saddam Hussein at all, and as much as I oppose the war in iraq (mainly for their fraudulant reasons for invading), I think it is beneficial to all mankind, muslim and non-muslim that Saddam Hussein is no longer ruling Iraq. Not only did he attack the Kurds, but performed genocide against thousands of muslims as well. Again, an example of people giving a bad name to the religion, please do not judge a religion by the actions of some of its followers, as a religion may be perfect, but PEOPLE are not.
     
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    #109
    The US made a mistake putting so much emphasis on weapons of mass destruction. The WMD was just one of many reasons for the war.
     
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    #110
    no, the main reason for the war was to gain a stronghold in the region, and oil.
    so in both cases, unjustifiable. they made it seem as if they were going in as saints, to save the world from "weapons of mass destruction", but really it was for selfish reasons, a clear "invasion" .
     
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    Thanks, Moe, we need foreigners to tell us what our motives are... we just never can figure out what we're thinking.

    btw - Tell Larry and Curly I said "Hi".
     
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    moe374 Active Member

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    #112
    the US has made alot of mistakes, putting emphasis on "weapons of mass destruction" was NOT one of them, it was well thought out and deliberate.
     
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    moe374 Active Member

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    #113
    yeah i'll tell them. And you think you know what the US's true motives are just because you live there? silly you.
     
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    #114
    Coming from an African American like himself it's even more ironic, isn't it?
     
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    #115
    Thrax... hate to burst your bubble but that photo was taken on a canoe trip. I have a lovely tan there, but my heritage is from even *worse* places than Africa.... Try Wales, England, Ireland, etc.

    Dont hold it against 'em though... one of those countries kicked one part of my family out and another part of my family got out by the skin of their teeth in a religious war. Apparently my crew has had unpopular politics going back a few hundred years. Imagine that. LOL
     
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    #116
    Where was the US during that war I mean, they are the "saviors of our world" rite? (but hey, i'm just a foreigner, how would i know what their true motives are? why dont you tell us, u live there rite?).
    I mean, where were they when the Rwanda genocide happened? They clearly had intelligence of the matters to come. This is undenied. But they were the first ones in Iraq to save us from "weapons of mass destruction", oh wait... they never had any WMD, so wait.. i'm confused...
     
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    moe374 Active Member

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    #117
    Now i'm just a foreigner, so I don't know anything (according to robjones), but i see a bit of a pattern here. They've never really prevented any wars, but they started a war in afghanistan, then iraq, not they're talking about attacking iran..... so they just like to start wars?
    And don't be fooled by their claims of doing in an attempt to rid the world of the "axis of evil", as we all know the US has lied before in order to set the stage for a war (and foreigners know this ESPECIALLY).

    This time they are claiming that iran has nuclear weapons , which iran denies. Remember when the US claimed <ahem> had weapons of mass destruction just a short while ago?
    so know that the US had started a war on false pretenses, and people who think "oh, they wouldn't do that twice in a row, we're not that stupid to believe that"... well guess what? do you believe it?


    btw, i'm from Canada.
     
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    #118
    You quote my post about my genealogy and ask me about a bunch of wars? LOL. Now try and focus.

    Honestly, I dont give a rats petoot if you hate the US, think we're the incarnation of the devil, etc. If it makes you feel better to think we're evil and plotting to dominate the world and steal your daughters... knock yourself out. [btw - You look nice in red, is that a new look?]
     
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    #119
    rofl. You checked all the wars that never happened and documented that we were not the cause of them not happening, right?

    Do you read this stuff or just kinda throw it up and hope it makes sense?
     
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    #120

    Who are you claiming says Iran has nuclear weapons?

    Iran is rapidly developing the capacity to have nuclear weapons. Hopefully other nations will act and prevent Iran from ever actually acquiring those weapons.
     
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