You obviously need to go back and read the last post, which show that your Jesus approved of the Old Testament punishments. Why have the old testament as part of the bible if you refuse to let it be used as a refrence to christianity? Is this a Pick and Mix religion?
Already covered here. Still nothing from the New Testament? If you're going to reach for moral equivalence, shouldn't you have some to offer?
OK, so we have confirmed that men are instructed to beat their wives in the quran. The "translation card" failed. Now, let's see if we can sweep it under the rug of political correctness. That would be the logical next move.
Well at least GTech's complete rejection of the Old Testament should convince his fellow fundamentalist Christians to end their war on science and in particular evolution. Obviously if Exodus, Numbers, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are no longer relevant than neither is Genesis. For that matter a lot of paper could be saved and Bibles would be a whole lot cheaper to produce if they simply stopped publishing the Old Testament, because after all it is irrelevant. It should be noted that New Testament passages were quoted by nokiaking that did indicate Jesus' support for Old Testament laws (Matthew 5:17). Really I would like to see something from the New Testament that declares all the laws of the Old Testament null and void or at the very least declares the Old Testament laws cited by nokiaking as null and void.
Men are not instructed to beat women in the quran So How did we manage to confirm that? The translation card didn't fail- you just refuse to accept it and believe that any language can be translated into another language and the meaning will be portrayed 100% the same. Is That right, if you can't explain something just pretend its not there......
Scholars are they? The Quran forbids muslims to believe the word of scholars- so that evidence goes right out of the window!
I haven't read about that anywhere... You seem to know a whole lot more about Islam then you do about your own religion......
No source? Every english speaking muslim is now not a real muslim. Because nokiaking says so. If you can't read arabic, you are not a real muslim. Smite them about the necks!
Where did I mention that? What i said was that the true meaning of the Quran can only be understood in Arabic. I didn't mention anything about english speaking individuals. A real muslim is one that believes in God, one that believes in the oneness of God and one that believes in the day of judgement.
I just realized something! You signed up specifically to respond in this thread. In fact, this was your first post on signing up. You must be a friend of klb's. I'm surprised he didn't introduce us Send me a PM when you get some better denial. One minute you admit the wife beating, the next back to denial, the next trying to blame Christianity for it.
Where does that say that any english speaking person is not a real muslim? I said that muslims are commanded not to believe the words of scholars. Are you sober? You seem to have completly changed what i said to try and prove your point- and failed!!