I've asked on numerous occasions for Muslim to prove that murdering apostates under any circumstances is wrong according to the Koran. This has never been done. And I'm not the only one who's been asking Muslims to refute this key doctrine of terrorists. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013987.php Maybe Menj will finally offer the proof that could convince even a terrorist to stop murdering people. I'm not holding my breath.
Hi.. I am muslim too, (I am Turkish). Believe me my friend murder is forbidden in Islam. Only in war you can kill for defending urself.. But u see marginal events in CNN or SKY News.. Don't u watched Fahrenaid 9 11, Bin laden was business partner with W. Bush. In Soviet siege of Afganistan, Bin Laden bought stringers from US.. All these things are setup, please watch freedom tv in winamp broadcast P/S: (Sorry for my bad enlis dude, i am trying to improve)
Prove it using the Koran. It's easy to say Islam is all about peace but no Muslim has ever proved it using the Koran or the words of the prophet. Where does the Koran say that murdering apostates is wrong? The point is, how can you expect terrorists to change if you can't prove to them that according to books they believe, they're in the wrong?
The problem is mamothus is that Americans and Europeans are groomed by the mainstream media into thinking that all Muslims are terrorists and murderers. It is all part of the neocons plan. I aplogise to all Muslims on behalf of these idiots. Some are fooled, others see through the lie. Very true. The Bush and Bin Laden family have been connected from as far back as the 1980's when Salem bin Laden invested through James R. Bath, the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, some money in Arbusto Energy, a company run by George W. Bush. As the guy from Loose Change Dylan Avery said, "Go figure, right? It always comes back to a Bush!"
nobody things all muslims are terrorists. people think that the koran might have something to do with the problem and some of them would like to be proven wrong.
Your english seems pretty good to me. I was curious when you said, "Bin Laden bought stringers from US.." What is a stringer? Anyway, nice to have you on the forum
The problem is that many muslims grow up and learn to hate other people (Jews/christians/the west). Of course not all the muslims are terrorist but most of the terrorist are muslims (maybe 90%) and there is many muslims that assist terrorist in many ways. So there is muslims that offended because of those terrorist but they don't do anything to stop this terror - and they can. How can you explain the palestinian choose hamas (terror organization) for their authority? because this mean they support terror ...
LMAO! Yeah, it's a neocon plan to have muslims murder apostates! No one can distort reality the way you can Need a broom?
LMAO! Yeah, it's a neocon plan to have muslims murder apostates! No one can distort reality the way you can Need a broom? ^^ that's what he said..
I am not a Muslim but I am living in Asia amd some of my friends and the people I deal with are Muslims. They are not killers or murderers and I found them to be very forgiving and tolerant of the other races. There hasn't been any race or religion motivated killing for quite a long time. I don't remember that there was any in my close to 40 years being on this earth. Part of the Koran shared part text with the Old Testament. As a Christian, I've read the Old Testament many times and you read the 10 commandments which reads 'Thou Shall Not Kill' but then you read through history of violence initiated by the people of God. Pages of pages of war is not uncommon. The early founding of the Roman Catholic church had its crusades which involved battle with Muslims. The Muslims leaders here are preaching peace but it happened that a handful of people used religion to corrupt a small sect to what to cause violence. They are basically extremists and not sanction by the mainstream Muslims. Religion is a powerful tool and in the wrong hands, it can rake havoc. What about David Koresh and Waco ? He used the bible as the basis of his teachings to create violence. It is extremists that we should be careful of. I do apologize to all Muslims for the negative impressions of the religions.
Do you mean in your area? because around the world it is a different story. I have not seen anything that the koran shares with the Old Testament. mohamad did copy some part of the concept, but there is 12 commandment that I saw in the koran What is in the koran? Those who follow the book are the ones causing violence. (see menj for more info) This one is funny. david koresh was a wacko, he didn't follow the Bible, he used parts of it and then was known to even call himself Jesus Christ. He twisted it just like any other cult to get what he wanted - power, corruption and lies.
Are this reasons to shut up? or to discuss and find solutions? At least 1600 young British Muslims are under surveillance for plotting terrorist violence against Britain, according to the head of MI5. Eliza Manningham Buller delivered a stark assessment of the threat facing the country from 200 terror networks stretching from the UK to Pakistan, including 30 "Priority 1" plots. In August Home Secretary John Reid claimed to know of 24 "major conspiracies", suggesting the dangers posed by organised terrorists is growing. Delivering the Government's latest assessment of the terror threat, the Director General of the Security Service revealed that her agency's caseload has increased by 80 per cent since January. She said: "That threat is serious is growing and will, I believe, be with us for a generation. It is a sustained campaign, not a series of isolated incidents. It aims to wear down our will to resist." - great to see people around that understand in what's going on ... the rest of the article here
"...whoever killed a human being, except as punishment for murder or other villainy in the land, shall be deemed as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved a human life shall be deemed as though he had saved all mankind." (Qur'an, 5:32) That should shut you up. - MENJ
Apostates are not covered under the verse above. It is pretty much specified that those punished for "murder or other villainy in the land" are exempted from the ruling. - MENJ
Thanks for clearing with your statement. You're just admitting to murder. You're saying apostates are not humans, so are none muslims, right? Guess, you soon will be in serious troubles. I even sense as time passes that your statements are getting more radical than ever before.