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Multiple C Class IP hosting

Discussion in 'Directories' started by deebee, Oct 20, 2008.

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Does multiple C class IPs make a difference if you run multiple directories?

  1. Is more beneficial for the link submitter

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  2. Makes no difference

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  1. #1
    If you run multiple directories, do you believe that hosting each directory under a different C class IP makes a difference.
    SEMrush
     
    deebee, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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  2. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #2
    definitely makes a differece for submitter....
     
    MeetHere, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    bracnet Active Member

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    Different C class IP Valuable SEO and more...
     
    bracnet, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    scoobby Active Member

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    Different C class IP sure makes a differece for submitter and for the owner as well!
     
    scoobby, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    #5
    no difference
    in fact no difference on same IP as long as you don't interlink
    the only reason submitters ask for it is that they would rather not risk it

    I would like to see some evidence of the benefits of different c classes
    the only people who benefit from it are the hosting companies who exploit it and charge like $5 per c class IP

    I think Malcolm went this route and I would like to know of his experiences
     
    discover, Oct 20, 2008 IP
  6. deebee

    deebee Active Member

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    I'm with you on this. I certainly can't find any concrete evidence that G favours links from multiple classes over links from single classes.
     
    deebee, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Might not be worth the extra cost, for what you might pay for the multi c class will it result in enough extra submissions to make it profitable.

    Can cost a bomb depending on how you do it.
     
    pipes, Oct 20, 2008 IP
  8. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    Extra IPs at my hosting are $2 per month. It can soon stack up with the costs.

    Seen as I only run niche directories the IP doesn't really matter.
     
    mikey1090, Oct 20, 2008 IP
  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    No. The use of multiple class C's IP's is a complete and utter myth perpetuated by the hosting industry to sell you more IP's.

    It makes absolutely NO difference, none, nada... To do so would be counter to ARIN's guidelines which encourage and suggest strongly using Name Based Virtual Hosting, vs. IP based in order to continual conserve IP space which will be gone in about 2 years. Probably sooner if it is continually wasted in this manner.

    There is absolutely no reason to have more than one IP, unless you are dealing with SSL certificates, or VPNs, and in a few other remote circumstances.

    Google does not care if you have more than one site, directory or whatever on the same IP.
     
    Mia, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    I actually remember being in an ICT lesson where new teachers were being interviewed. One of them was talking about IPs and how we'll run out of them eventually - and it made me wonder if things like SEO hosting etc was a waste of IPs.
     
    mikey1090, Oct 20, 2008 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    It is a ridiculous waste of IP space, yes. And yes, we will run out, and like in under 2 years. Maybe even one. However, there is something that will help to ease up the limited space. The prices of IP's will be going WAY up. It will not be uncommon to pay over $50 per IP at some point.
     
    Mia, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    I believe it will help
     
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    Well, there is no better way than to refer the issue to Matt Cutts himself. Its a myth, period.
     
    Ibn Juferi, Oct 20, 2008 IP
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    That's what I was hoping to find. Thanks for the link.
     
    deebee, Oct 21, 2008 IP
  15. IndiaNets

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    It's a highly debatable topic in SEO industry in fact. But many people do not know the origin of this concept and at the same time they state it useless and all.

    Everything starts with a Google's Patent which states..
    Original Source : http://blog.v7n.com/2007/10/02/seo-and-web-hosting/

    If your directories are hosted on different c-classes, it is roughly considered to be in different networks. Some SEO believe that using different nameservers and domain privacy helps in this technique as well. So, the links coming from these different c-class directories will surely help to get more link counts IMO :)
    And, really the prices quoted above by some members (upto $5/c-class) are not exactly true. It can be availed for the prices of general shared hosting.

    Thanks,
    Vijay
     
    IndiaNets, Oct 21, 2008 IP
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    Thanks, I was also looking for that link. Most of the SEO advice I see handed out on DP is way out of date or total BS.

    You also do not need a static URL anymore. Google can deal with dynamic url's just fine.
     
    stoner3221, Oct 21, 2008 IP
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    Nothing is debatable about it. It has been a fact for quite some time now. As for the Google patent; Google has improved upon many old patent technologies.
     
    stoner3221, Oct 21, 2008 IP
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    Hello...

    We are using it and paying threw the nose...:(

    If we had to do it again we would just go with every 3 sites gets a new IP.
    Needless to say paying $385 monthly for hosting is a bit much in this economy
    but not worth the effort of paying someone to move them again and/or losing
    submissions from SEOs whom like submitting under different ips.

    laterz
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Oct 21, 2008 IP
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    and you notice in that post is a link to the same sub division of hostgator who profited off this rumour
    the patent may have been real but it doesn't mean it was used in the way shown
    matt cutts has said in the post already mentioned that being on the same IP means nothing
     
    discover, Oct 21, 2008 IP
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    If you host a whole directory network under the same IP, it can be harmful, but, the problem isn't the IP per se. The problem is that some directory networks share IP, template, database and category tree...the conjunct converts it in a undesirable network, full of duplicated content. Make a directory network as an alternative to domain parking isn't a good decision.

    If each directory has its own niche and run independently, the IP doesn't matter.

    Howewer, I think that a dedicated IP and a own SSL can be considered as a good sign by search engines...
     
    pibepalo, Oct 21, 2008 IP