Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), The Last Prophet of God

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  1. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    #21
    This is to remove some of the bad choices. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. d16man

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    #22

    notice there weren't any bad choices, i.e. God never said to remove other religions, until Islam came along.
     
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  3. Bestmiler

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    #23
    Hmm..good question. Ok it might have been from free will but it makes sense if God created because He wants people to choose Him
     
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    #24
    Yeah like Pagans, etc but not Christianity.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #25
    But if god created those people and he created free will, he is still ultimately responsible.

    The only conclusion I can derive from that is that god enjoys watching us murder each other.
     
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  6. KalvinB

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    #26
    He doesn't enjoy it. He just allows it because it's better than the alternative: being worshipped by a bunch of mindless robots. It's our job to manage the assholes of the world. God has no qualms about governments putting murderers to death. We just choose not to do it and then whine about repeat offenders.

    It's the government's job to be feared by the wicked. But we have too many bleeding hearts so that doesn't happen so people don't think to hard about the consequences of murder.
     
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  7. CosmicRay

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    #27
    It has been said that God is a sadist voyeur. :rolleyes:

    So let's entertain him a little bit more with a few more wars.
     
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  8. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Get rid of Islam and you get rid of the problem.
     
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  9. ekonomist

    ekonomist Peon

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    #29
    I read most of your posts and i see that most of you know nothing about Islam. If you have read Quran you would never say these things. Because there are dozens of miracles in Quran. I will give you some:


    THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE:

    And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)
    Until the dawn of the 20th century, the only view prevailing in the world of science was that "the universe has a constant nature and it has existed since infinite time." However, modern research, observations, and calculations carried out by means of modern technology have revealed that the universe in fact had a beginning and that it constantly "expands."

    At the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian physicist Alexander Friedmann and the Belgian cosmologist Georges Lemaitre theoretically calculated that the universe is in constant motion and that it is expanding.

    THE SEAS NOT MINGLING WITH ONE ANOTHER
    He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
    This property of the seas, that is, that they meet and yet do not intermix, has only very recently been discovered by oceanographers. Because of the physical force called "surface tension," the waters of neighbouring seas do not mix. Caused by the difference in the density of their waters, surface tension prevents them from mingling with one another, just as if a thin wall were between them.60

    It is interesting that, during a period when there was little knowledge of physics, and of surface tension, or oceanography, this truth was revealed in the Qur'an.
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    THE MOON'S ORBIT
    And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)
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    The Moon does not follow a regular orbit like the satellites of other planets. As it orbits the Earth, it sometimes moves behind it and sometimes in front. As it also moves with the Earth around the Sun, it actually follows a constant pattern resembling the letter "S" in space. This route, traced by the Moon in space, is described in the Qur'an as resembling an old date branch and does indeed resemble the twisted form of the date tree branch. Indeed, the word "urjoon" employed in the Qur'an refers to a thin and twisted date branch and is used to describe that part left after the fruit has been picked. The way that this branch is described as "old" is also most appropriate since old date branches are thinner and more twisted.
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    Since the Moon revolves around the Sun together with the Earth, it follows a path through space which resembles the letter “S.” The appearance of this orbit resembles the twisted shape of a dry date branch, as is revealed in the Qur’an.

    There is no doubt that it was impossible for anyone to have any knowledge about the orbit of the Moon 1,400 years ago. The way that this pattern, identified by modern technology and accumulated knowledge, was revealed in the Holy Book is yet another scientific miracle of the Qur'an.

    THE WEIGHT OF CLOUDS
    The weight of clouds can reach quite astonishing proportions. For example, a cumulonimbus cloud, commonly known as the thunder cloud, can contain up to 300,000 tons of water.

    The fact that a mass of 300,000 tons of water can remain aloft is truly amazing. Attention is drawn to the weight of clouds in other verses of the Qur'an:

    It is He Who sends out the winds, bringing advance news of His mercy, so that when they have lifted up the heavy clouds, We dispatch them to a dead land and send down water to it, by means of which We bring forth all kinds of fruit... (Qur'an, 7:57)

    It is He Who shows you the lightning, striking fear and bringing hope; it is He Who heaps up the heavy clouds. (Qur'an, 13:12)


    At the time when the Qur'an was revealed, of course, it was quite impossible to have any information about the weight of clouds. This information, revealed in the Qur'an, but discovered only recently, is yet another proof that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.


    These are just a few of a dozen of miracles. You can read more of these and dozens of other miracles at http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/
     
    ekonomist, Apr 27, 2007 IP
  10. CosmicRay

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    #30
    Look at the Miracle of NO Koran ...

    Japanese kids learning robotics in order to improve and
    advance the world.

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    Look who is learning about robotics here with the Koran.
    I think this is another miracle of the Koran.
    Guess who the robot is ?

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    Interesting isn't it ... with NO Koran and with Koran ...
    Now which children do you think will rule the future ? :rolleyes:
     
    CosmicRay, Apr 27, 2007 IP
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  11. ekonomist

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    #31
    I'm sure that Muslims will rule the world in the future. You only think Iran or Iraq as Muslim countries. But you do forget the most important one, TURKEY.

    Who ruled the world for 600 years between 1300-1900? We are the grandchildren of OTTOMAN EMPIRE and we will get our authority back soon enough. Don't worry about it :D
     
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  12. Arnie

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    #32
    Yeah, at the gates of Vienna you will fail again. ;)
     
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    #33
    Like you failed in Iraq
     
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  14. CosmicRay

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    #34
    Ok we saw the advancement of the Japanese in the field of education
    with NO Koran ... here are 2 pictures that sum up the world of transportation
    with Koran and with NO Koran.
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    Transportation with the Koran.

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    Transportation with NO Koran.

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    Again ... does anybody seriously think the Japanese need the Koran ???
     
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    #35
    people can post what they want about the koran, it doesn't prove anything...mohammed may not have known physics, but neither did the people before him who used the stars for navigation and knew that the sun came out during the day and the moon at night...big deal...doesn't prove anything about the koran or mohammed...
     
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  16. KalvinB

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    #36
    It proves he was paying attention when he talked to people of his day and they told him these things.
     
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  17. CosmicRay

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    #37
    It does prove that as a "prophet" he could not lead his followers to conceive
    of a better form of transportation than a camel. :rolleyes:
    Let's hope that is really the last prophet from God.
     
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  18. yiker

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    #38
    people called "prophets of god", are nothing more then really good street magician's.
     
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    #39
    CosmicRay, stop your ignorance (or bias) and take a look at the cars made by nations who really implement the Koran :

    Iranian cars :

    http://conflictiran.blogspot.com/2006/04/iranian-made-cars.html

    just some samples :

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    Malysian cars :

    Proton cars

    http://www.proton.co.uk/

    just one sample :

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    Perodua cars :

    http://www.perodua.com.my/index.php


    just one sample :

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  20. CosmicRay

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    #40
    oh boy don't get me started .... :D
     
    CosmicRay, Apr 27, 2007 IP