MTV Martial Law Warnings

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    #22
    Oh ok, not just an Mtv advert... you have a pro NRA anti-mexican rant from Glen Beck too :rolleyes:

    you certainly do have reliable sources, i mean, i thought you just trawled youtube looking for poorly thought out conspiracies to instantly believe without question, but you really have done your homework :rolleyes:
     
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    #23
    Don't even think about calling me a racist! Ask Americans have they noticed any thing happen in their country and those links are just a few of the ones on the web, not to mention the MTV and think.mtv.com is not a viral site and the ad is not a viral video are the ads they show related to hunger, rape and abuse also virals?

    You have given no evidence to your points just dismissing everything as fake. This is cheap coming from someone who lives in England the country that has a world record for CCTV cameras, a country that lost a court appeal in the EU humans right court over stop and search without cause. These are signs of martial law!
     
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    #24
    Then don't post racist rants by right wing demagogues as evidence for your premise. You either agree with beck or you don't, and if you don't, refrain from using his rants as your evidence.

    Their advert is viral by the fact that you are posting links to it on a forum. That's the definition of viraly spread advertising media.

    I'd say we have the best record for CCTV cameras.

    I work in security in London, i know what the cameras are there for, i receive emails from government agencies and police which i have to propagate to relevant control rooms regarding suspicious activities, wanted people or potential unrest and i know the extent to which they go towards protecting me and my family. The fact that you think these billion pound systems are there to monitor your insignificant life is actually quite arrogant. So you stick to listening to rage against the machine and decorating your laptop bag with anti-establishment badges and ill stick to preventing people from murdering you and your family. ;)

    I actually laughed earlier at the thought of a civil liberties guru like noam chomsky citing an advert for Mtv or a rant by glen beck as evidence that the new world order is here to screw us over. Seriously, if you want to make a case for your premise, you are going to have to do better than this.
     
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    #25
    Your still doing it no information just dismissing it. You know England has one of the highest crime rates in any developed country, second highest gun crime after the U.S. more car theft than any European country so I guess your CCTV is working.

    And just because someone puts a badge on their bag as a hope for change I think is good, Its better than selling guns as your country and the U.S. do! You point the finger with no evidence can you be sure MTV at least the think.mtv.com may just think in the same way everyone who has sense and sees what's happening in the world and wants to stop it? your country is stopping Muslim women for wearing the vail because they say its to stop hate, its causing hate its saying you have to destroy your culture or go to prison. What happened to the free country?

    Yet Police can cover their faces, look at what happens at peaceful protests in your own country and tell me your not being controlled!

    American Congress listen to the speech
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0
     
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    #26
    As bad as it may be CCTV helps prevent it. Your point is as backwards as saying chemotherapy doesn't help fight cancer because the guy having chemo has cancer, and the guy not, doesn't. All you done there, unbeknown to yourself apparently, is present a very good reason why London needs CCTV.

    lol yea, keep up the good work. You are a modern day Che! :rolleyes:

    Between your decorated laptop bag and an Mtv advert i don't see how "the man" can continue with his evil plan.
     
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    #27
    Again no information just time wasting rubbish! And no I don't decorate my laptop bag but people do what's wrong with people doing that? I'm guessing your a person who believes everything their Government tells them am I right? do you think you would be told you are under martial law? waiting for Sky News to tell you?

    And the CCTV stopping crime, it was suppose to stop it but it doesn't seem to be working! can you think of another reason for it? maybe tracking movements of people? have you heard about the law saying all Air liners in England have to have on board CCTV? but not just CCTV they count how many times you go to the toilet, if your sweating, analysing your facial expressions too! Going to stop crime even after all the air port security and extra scanners?
     
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    #28
    1. Decorating a bag in order to fight a government supposedly comparable to the nazis shows just how not comparable to the nazis they are.
    2. No the government aren't always, by definition, right. But that doesn't mean they are always wrong and it doesn't mean your silly little conspiracy stories have any basis in reality.

    It can't stop crime. Like i said before, it's there to help control room operators identify crime, identify suspicious behaviour, identify wanted people. The logic of "cameras stop crime > crime still exists > cameras = bad" is not an argument against cameras, it's an argument against your ability to construct a logical argument.

    Again, CCTV operators don't care about you and your insignificant little life. You re starting to sound quite paranoid. Do you stand in the street screaming "don't look at my face!!" to passers by?

    If there is this conspiracy and new world order global elite (nonsense you no doubt also believe in) what could they possibly gain by slightly watching you? Specifically, what does that get them? And don't just say some vague words which you assume we should be fighting against, like "power" or "control, man!". Specifically, what do they gain from cameras and for what ends?
     
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    #29
    They just don't have swastikas that's all their are no real differences, you can wear a badge because its not making a big fuss but try standing in the street or questioning a polatition and see if you can do that without being arrested for disturbing the peace. They use propaganda just like the Nazi's did to push polices "Global Warming & The War on Terrorism".

    It can't stop crime? isn't that what they are for?

    So why have them? look all that information is recorded and it locks onto people
    Ever hear of the Bilderbergs? And its not slightly watching you its done slowly so that people become used to being under surveillance.
    Your Government already passed laws that allow them to deport anyone they feel is a supporter of Al Queada is that ok with you? or having people stopped on the street asking for your details? or having your home searched because you maybe a suspected Terrorist? you don't even know what's happening in your own country let alone actually knowing why the CCTV cameras are in use! You just go along with what you are told by your Government!
     
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    #30
    I swear some of these conspiracy nutjobs (e.g. Audiomad) are actually posting from CIA computers in order to make the rest of the conspiracy theorists look more insane.
     
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    #31
    What's wrong about what I said? point out one remark I said that is not true?
     
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    #32
    They are there to help prevent crime. it's not a panacea.

    Nobody cares about you and your insignificant life. Why would they want to monitor you? What could they gain by monitoring you while you go about your trivial little life carrying out your trivial little chores? Sorry to break it to you, but you frankly aren't interesting enough for them to set up multibillion pound systems to monitor you. Seriously, you are starting to sound like a paranoid schizophrenic.

    "arrghhh, stop looking at my face!!!!"

    You don't want them to have the power to search suspected terrorists?
     
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    #33
    So they want to look at you? or maybe everyone you are answering your own questions!!! let me ask you a question who are these camera's looking at? the blond in the red dress?

    Yes but when they start searching kids and anyone they have the cheek to say is a terrorist is when it goes to far these are the reasons it was demned illegal by the EU!!!! Did you know this? under age kids!!!! even without a parent / guardian at the time of the search!!!

    Wake up!!!
     
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    #34
    The vast majority of the cameras aren't being monitored. They are pointing out, but they are inactive, they aren't looking at anything. Then when the control room receives information about a person or event the relevant cameras are monitored by an operator and relevant information passed on.

    Oh so now it's children... funny how it was "suspected terrorists" right up until i pointed out that searching suspected terrorists is actually a good thing, then you tried to switch "suspected terrorists" for "children".

    Won't someone think of the suspected terro.... err, i mean CHILDREN!!!!

    Grow up!!!

    He's even quoting rage against the machine lyrics now. Learn to think for yourself.
     
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    #35
    So why have them if they do nothing? ask your self that!!

    Yes it is you might want to go look at the finding of the EU investigation!!!

    I did but I think your still someone who believes what mammy and daddy "Government" say is always right

    Do you follow rage against the Machine or something because again you mention them I don't follow them!! But they just like others have their own mind and see what's really happening in the world.
     
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    #36
    Why do you have to keep pretending i have said something i haven't? I keep telling you, they help prevent crime. I keep telling you, in as simple terms as i can manage, what the cameras do and what they are used for. I assure you, they aren't there to monitor your insignificant life.

    I am getting tired of repeating myself. if you are going to address me at least have the courtesy, and intellectual honesty, to not pretend i have said something i haven't and ignore what i have said. This is the trouble when your views are just parroted rhetoric. When someone says something which you haven't been trained to reply to, you simply ignore it or lie about what they have said.

    I like their music. I don't think their lyrics are the basis for forming a political opinion though. Just like i don't think adverts for Mtv are.
     
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    #37
    No I'm answering all your questions you don't seem to answer my questions! Why are they there if they do nothing?

    Again I answered all your questions you just are to ignorant to admit your wrong!

    I make up my own mind I don't follow bands because they say something I agree with, which is the way people vote in elections. I have my own mind I think for my self and I listen to what people are saying and I also investigate.

    And if you only listen to the media try :

    Press TV : Sky channel 515
    Russia Today : Sky channel 512
    Al Jazeera : Sky channel 514

    They report news unlike Skynews which only say what your Government would say!
     
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    #38
    Here is more proof of whats happening everywhere, its been reported Mexican troops are to patrol New York streets.

    And in Germany

    [video=youtube;52darKphkVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52darKphkVI[/video]
     
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    #39
    THEY HELP PREVENT CRIME. Now what part of that do you think means "they do nothing"? How many times do i have to repeat this simple point before you start to grasp it?
     
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