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MSN update!!!

Discussion in 'Bing' started by IanVelvet, May 26, 2006.

  1. #1
    Definitely an update. - http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum97/838.htm

    Some very different SERPs:

    - http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=cars&FORM=QBHP
    - http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=used+cars&FORM=QBRE
    - http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=new+cars&FORM=QBRE
    - http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=auto+insurance&FORM=QBRE (look at the last result on this one)
     
    IanVelvet, May 26, 2006 IP
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    CReed Prominent Member

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  3. KingSEO

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    Same old bitching. Everything except your own pages are labeled as spam. If 1 of your 10 keywords went bad the new changes are bad.

    Bitch bitch whine whine. Always the same. Try to stick to the business more than 5 months and you'll notice this isnt even interesting enough to write a thread about. Try a model where you actually make money even if your site isnt on the first page. Now that'd be something.. woudlnt it..
     
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  4. Janet

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    Yikes! That was harsh. :eek:
     
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    someone lost their rankings lol.. seoking :p
     
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  6. mahmood

    mahmood Guest

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    Good idea. Could you give us a few suggestions.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  7. IanVelvet

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    there are tons like affiliate programs and then do an adwords campaign.

    or you can do viral marketing for a site of yours or you can do a sales page for a certain product and do a newsletter campaign..

    My objective is to provide information about what is going on w/ the search engines for beginers to advanced SEO's..

    seoking must have a stick up his asss to be so harsh. Either that or he wants to show everyone how great he is but as we all know the jar with a few quarters makes more noise then a jar full of quarters.

    (quarters being knowledge durrr)
     
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  8. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    I am seeing many duplicate content sites using keyword stuffed URLs so yeah it looks like spam to me.
     
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  9. IanVelvet

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    results seem better in msn to me.. check my first post.

    looks like more authority sites are finally showing up in the top 10
     
    IanVelvet, May 30, 2006 IP
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    Lpspider Well-Known Member

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    MSN update!! Woohoo!
     
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  11. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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  12. KingSEO

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    Ofcourse,

    1) Sell a product that gives enough margin to afford ppc traffic as a supplement to your normal seo tactics. Accessories for mobile phones, ringtones, sms services, accessories to computers etc.. smaller things. With large margins.

    2) Sell a product that has enough margin to afford to pay affiliates to drive
    traffic to your page. Tshirts, e-books, electronic gadgets, software.

    3) Create a website that has enough value for a visitor to voluntarily return. Provide unique content that isnt just about one topic. Update regularly. This might be a blog, but I'd advise to find something more original.

    4) Create a website that is good enough/funny enough to spread thru recommendations / word of mouth (viral). This often includes mediarich "hip" sites, such as a community, a webpage that provides a service like flickr, youtube etc. (You think those guys has 100% of the market? Think again, there will ALWAYS be place for a service that does things the way YOU think is the best - This is how I make my living.)

    These four are just from the top of my head and made up from looking around my room and from what friends/affiliates to me does for a living.

    And to all you FU CK ERS that keep giving me anonymous red because you're clueless morons: _piss off_
     
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  13. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    I would like to add something that will help you to rank well with the current MSN algo. Make sure your domain name has your keywords in it. So if I am selling tennis shoes, I would purchase the domain of tennisshoesexpress or something like it and then I would create a couple of subfolders called tenninsshoes and name the webpage tennisshoes.htm. That will rank you well in MSN with the current algo. ;) :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    Good for adsense relevance too, keywords in the page files and domain name that is.
     
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    This isnt just great for MSN but all SE's across the board.

    a ways back words run together like tennisshoesexpress.com would not be pickedup by se's and you would have to seperate by -.. technology has since been updated and will accept words run together.. FYI for anyone not in the KNOW.. good tip gazelle!
     
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    yes, but i don't think it is a major update. my keyword got dropped to the 2nd page, but i am confident that if I do some update on my on page optimization, I will get picked up again
     
    GoWFB_SEO, Jun 1, 2006 IP
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    Looks like a major update to me and it sucks.
     
    Web Gazelle, Jun 1, 2006 IP
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    Some very new keyword stuffed sites with Keyword stuffed URLs have filled top rankings in MSN. They need to improve their algo badly to be able to compete with G. I see that some authority sites have completely dropped from first pages to 3rd or 4th page, which shouldn't be happening. New spammy sites are gaining rankings on MSN.
     
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  19. Web Gazelle

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    Your seeing exactly what I am seeing. I guess I am not going crazy after all. :D
     
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    i just checked msn and yahoo for some car keywords...and the first 5 are the same on both engines..and 100% spam links
     
    ash1, Jun 1, 2006 IP