Most SEO Firms Are Cheating

Throught search engine i went to a website giving 100% guaranteed top 10 listing on google within a month. Being a SEO myself i know it was nothing but to cheat general public. So i decided to try them out, Check out this conversation and enjoy.......

This is what i mailed him
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Hi
We are a web designing company based in India and wannt to promote our
website. We have given 2-3 companies chance to promote our website but
nobody did it with suceess. And how r u offering guaranteed top 10
results in google and on what basis. For some sites it even takes one
month to get indexed and i have first time heard this that anybody is
offering top 10 listing in google in 1 month. However we wannt our site
to be in top 10 in google with "web designing". Explain me how will u do
it and what will u charge. The site is in reconstruction phase.


This is what i got in reply
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You hit the nail on the head - our Rank10 is offered on a site to site
basis, not objectively. To guarantee top10 for 'any keyword' on 'any
engine' in one month is something we can't do. Actually I don't see how
it can be done at all, legally.

Our "Rank10" is typically reserved for developed sites who want to jump
from a position of 40 or better into the top10 on a certain
keyword-phrase. We have to have our specialists verify that it is a
guarantee that we can make. Our procedure is 100% manual, based on
inbound-link counsel and keyword optimization. The research is routed in
a statisitcal analysis of your search engine profile (your "ability" to
succeed based on the engines' current perception of your site), current
market trends, the level and sophistication of your competition, the
level of saturation on the most popular keywords, etc. There are a lot
of criteria. When we complete the keyword analysis, we send you the
suggestions to be uploaded in your meta-tags and body text.

We can guarantee to boost your traffic, raise your ranking and develop
your search engine profile, but unfortunately we cannot make the rank10
guarantee for your site. The market is simply too competitive, relative
to your current search engine profile. Based on the competitive nature
of your industry, you require a number of inbound-links in proportion to
your top10 competitors on terms like 'web designing', or 'web design
india'.
To give you an idea of our costs, the following web promotion packages
are our most popular:

A) $599 - We will provide a rank boost on 3 unique search phrases, a
year of rank-checks and index-monitoring, as well as link
popularity-counsel.
B) $899 - We will provide a rank boost on 9 unique search phrases, a
year of rank-checks and index-monitoring, as well as link
popularity-counsel.
C) $1299 - We will provide a rank boost on 18 unique search phrases, a
year of rank-checks and index-monitoring, as well as link
popularity-counsel.

(We will also provide a free performance upgrade of PageChecking and
Monthly inbound-link lists with the purchase of LinkChecking at $229).


So point here is that they are fooling general public with their website. I cannt see why google take legal actions against such things.

 

It isn't exactly honest but they do request you contact their sales team before ordering (in fact you can't pay them without contacting them first). You did that and they gave you the specifics right in the first mail.

Its a bit deceptive but I'm not sure if its illegal. They should add a little star and then a reference at the bottom saying "Email us for Terms and Conditions of Guarantee"

ITs nothing new but I doubt Google would get involved nor should they really.

 

Erm.....

I don't see what he's saying is so bad.

He told you the truth - didn't charge you then say they couldn't get top 10.

He's saying it like it is.

And I would take that URL down as if I was him, I would be VERY annoyed at personal emails (With price quotes) being published live.

 

By the way, talking about deception, you gave this thread the following title:

"Most SEO Firms Are Cheating"

I would be careful with the combination of the thread title and live linking to the company (As SE Said)

 

Well i am not saying anything about his email, The thing is that when i mailed him he realized that its not a mail by a common man and it must by some person having some sort of seo knowledge. so he gave me a careful reply. But had it been any other common man he would definately have exorted money from him.

The thing i am trying to prove is that how can any SEO firm put this on their index page that "Guaranteed Google Listing in One month". I am not sure even google himself can offer that. And that is a serious issue and it effects the image of every SEO firms.

 

Look at it as an oppurtunity. Good SEO's make good money.

There will always be competition that blurs the line a little bit but in this particular case, there is no Scam

By the way, the email you sent them didn't out you as a SEO professional, sorry to say. The "how r u" might have had something to do with it

 

Again, I would suggest you remove that URL as if I were working for that company, I would say that you were going out of your way to bad-mouth your competitors and take the appropriate action as required.

 

At present it looks to me as if u r trying to say that just to get a SEO customer say anything.

Than why "guaranteed Top rankings in 1 month" why not have a catch line
"SEO SUPER OFFER" "Top 10 Google Ranking in 10 Days"

I think this will bring more results. And whereas that is concerned "Look at it as an oppurtunity. Good SEO's make good money."
Well no SEO in world can bring any site in top 10 in google in a month. That will be nothing less than a miracle.

 

Technically they ARE guaranteeing it, provided you fit their requirements which they outlined in the email.

I am starting to think you have an axe to grind against this company.

 

Are you gonna take that URL off or what.

I'll email the owner of that site if you don't as I think you are being an arse.

Top10 guaranteed is ONE OF THE SERVICES they offer, and as the guy said - "our Rank10 is offered on a site to site
basis, not objectively. To guarantee top10 for 'any keyword' on 'any
engine' in one month is something we can't do. Actually I don't see how
it can be done at all, legally.".

Grow up, and stop trying to bad-mouth your competition.

 

Look, already on red! Well, that's really beeing a sissy... I'm sorry, but it is true... It's a marketing strategy, they do can guarantee you a Top 10 after seeing your website.

Also, showing personal emails to public on this forum isn't really good for your reputation at anything...

 

Actually he was already in the red before he started this thread - Although it probably didn't help any

 

Damn, I thought I'd turned him to red...

 

I will also point out the ridiculousness of your notion that Google should remove them from the index.

Surely you don't suggest Google remove every site that you (or any one person) doesn't agree with.

My competition sells the same product as me and says it $59.99, but if you add shipping its $89.99. Should Google remove them because I have to go past the first page to find out they have excessive shipping?

 

Seems like these guys are fairly frank and honest. There's a lot worse out there than this.

 

Ok. The only thing in the mail I reacted about is this quote:

The rest is fine.

I checked the site. Check out this quote:

It seems like they have quite some potential. But I don't see anything real wrong except they should maybe write something about the KW research and they don't guratantee all KWs.

Red rep given for not taking down URL. Perhaps a mod should do it.

 

If they are talking about the keywords tag I would agree although I'm sure we would also both agree that doesn't rise to the level of "Scam"

There are a lot of SEO's out there that either aren't up to date or don't truly understand SEO but thats up to the user to decide.

 

Ahh. Just got an idea.

If I look at their site and read the rest of their e-mail they seem to know what they are taking about so for me it was strange that they wrote that line about meta-tags, BUT it could be that they have that in their mail because their customers who don't know anything about it thinks it's all about meta-tags and gets very happy when they read the line "we send you the suggestions to be uploaded in your meta-tags". The line could be in a ready made standard e-mail template which the guy changed when he now saw that this guy knew something about web design and maybe he forgot to change that sentence.

Either that or it is probably a "not so good SEO" who doesn't know about on-page optimization and do everything with link popularity - which probably gets ended when the contract finishes.

Just my 2 cents.

 

I will add another perspective to this...Its possible that their customers are asking for the Meta Tags to be done. 99% of webmasters think the keywords tag is still useful and you have to have unused tags like "revisit after 1 day".

A good portion of those won't be told otherwise. Possibly this company does it just to make the customer happy (since they don't actually hurt, just don't help)

If they said meta tags were needed to rank, then it would be a different story

 

I emailed him...

I can't believe that the URL still hasn't been taken down?!?

What a moron.