My mind has been open for years, but whenever I have a question that inconveniences people, it gets ignored. But maybe you can open my mind again and let me know how you feel about this: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1722817&page=1
No it doesn't. First, it does not do so in it's most holy book: 9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. Second, it does not do so in practice. The examples of this are almost as numerous as the fish in the sea. Well, it would be nice to see more Muslims here on DP that don't support terrorism. That could go a long way to improving civilized people's views of Muslims.
Liar. "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an, 2:62) Does this make you feel silly? I really hope it does! Islam is a religion of tolerance, and at least you are right on one part: the examples of this tolerance are almost as numerous as the fish in the sea. It would be certainly be nice if you quit making false allegations about Islam and take note that Muslims have always denounced the 9/11 attacks. I wonder what your in-laws have to say about your biased and demented attitude towards Islam in particular?
I read them properly and unlike you, I can comprehend something very easily. I would certainly like to see proof of these so-called "hundred Jews" in Malaysia! C'mon, show some evidence instead of merely making assertions! How can there be any persecution of Jews in Malaysia if none of them exist here anymore?? "Most of the original community have emigrated to other countries, especially with the rise of anti-semitic sentiments and anti-Israel policies pursued by the Malaysian government since the 1970s." Which part of "emigrated to other countries" do you not understand? I have already stated that nearly all of the Jews in Malaysia (if there were any) have emigrated to either Israel or Australia. If there are any Jews left (and I've never encountered any Malaysian Jews), their numbers are too small to form a quorum for a Jewish assembly. Hence the allegation of "persecution" exists only in your head. The Jewish synagogue and Jewish cemetery in Penang still stands to this day. If there was indeed a pogrom against Jews here in Malaysia, those two would have been destroyed by now. The cemetery is being cared for by a Malay-Muslim caretaker (see Raimy Che Ross , "A Penang Kaddish. The Jewish Cemetery In George Town"). The fact that these two places exist till these day, even with no Jews around, shows that you are just making up stories along the way and have no clue about Malaysia or its society.
awinsjclarke: Your argument is refuted in the link that you posted. Please go read the link until you find the reference. You are wasting everyone's time with your intellectual laziness.
Its not refuted in anything. You made a claim, (i.e., Jews are "persecuted in Malaysia" even though most of them left for Israel and Australia for personal reasons), I expect you to back it up with something apart from your myopic interpretation of a Wiki entry. Isn't it interesting that Raimy Che-Ross made a conclusion totally opposite from yours? Take note of your own advice and stop wasting my time.
I notice she still refuses to comment on the Malaysian firebombing of Christian churches by her fine fellow Muslim citizens. Perhaps one of the reasons there are practically no Jews in Malaysia is because people holding an Israeli passport are not permitted to enter the country. At least they don't appear on the list of Muslim countries(many of them) that won't even let you in if you have an Israeli stamp or visa in your passport. I'm sure the prevention of Israelis from entering the country is all about their love of the Jews. Its like a big love fest really, right Awinsjclarke?
Red herring and straw man argument. In any case, it needs to be pointed out that Malaysia does not have any formal diplomatic relations with the Tel Aviv regime, nor does it officially recognise it. Hence, no Israeli citizens are allowed to enter the country. On every Malaysian passport, this sentence is imprinted: THIS PASSPORT IS VALID FOR ALL COUNTRIES EXCEPT ISRAEL Deal with it.
Its not an ad hominem, its a statement of fact. In any case, Malaysia's diplomatic relations with Israel has nothing to do with the treatment of Jews here. You were the one who introduced this red herring.
Oh, you had evidence that Israel is a regime like, lets say, Iran? Ad Hom. Also, calling the passport issue a Red Herring is, in and of itself a Red Herring. Kudos.
Of course its a regime, like every other government. Get a dictionary? Cat bit your tongue? Still awaiting the miraculous appearance of "one hundred Jews" here, so that they can establish their minyan and apply for a synagogue!
Hey, at least there is no Jew problem in Malaysia. They got em down to 100. Like I said, Islamist wet dream. Now if they can just get rid of the trannies, prostitutes, and child molesters, they could be good Muslims. At least they seem to have their Islamic priorities in order.
No thanks, I'll use yours. I know others have pointed this out to you, but It really does seem silly that you continually post links without reading the content behind them. I am also very irritated that you didn't claim there was a logical fallacy in my post. I wouldn't want you to break your nearly flawless record at such idiocy.
Its factually incorrect, as the Jewish community in Malaysia is virtually non-existent. This has already been established in Raimy Che-Ross' A Penang Kaddish: The Jewish Cemetery in George Town. Even that very same Wiki entry states that the synagogue had to close down because there was no quorum (read: no more Jews around), contradicting your silly assertion of the miraculous "one hundred Jews" figure. If there were really 100 Jews in Penang, why the need to shut down the synagogue? Unlike you, my scope of reading (and reasoning) extends beyond a Wiki entry. Try reading again.
Well consider me(and the Wikipedia link you posted but failed to read) corrected. Whether or not you have successfully completely purged the Jews from Malysia, that you claim you have with pride is good enough for me. I won't even bother to point harp on your failed understanding of what the meaning of a quorum is.
Your insistence on finding some sort of "purging" of Jews from Malaysia is hilarious. The Wiki entry clearly states that the Jews left voluntarily because they wanted to emigrate to other countries. Raimy Che-Ross' article concurs with this as well. There was never any sort of pogrom or witch-hunt or massacre against Jews in Malaysia, despite your adamant harping on trying to find fault with Malaysian society. Keep on dreaming of something which never happened here.