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More love for Python

Discussion in 'Programming' started by SunCraft, Dec 14, 2008.

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    Any Python programmer here? Where do I request to add a sub-form here for python?
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    SunCraft, Dec 14, 2008 IP
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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    Not much.

    Try collecting 10% of DP userbase signatures, then post a request to one of the admins.

    Peace,
     
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    SunCraft Peon

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    This must be a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. Where do I find out DP userbase number?
     
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    SunCraft Peon

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    Yeap, it was a dumb question: Members: 233,392, Active Members: 60,247.

    But which one is the 10% based on?
     
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    Tarkan Peon

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    Python is not that amazing. You'd see Perl, C++, C#, Java sub-forums before you'd see Python (it's pretty much a rarely used language). It's kind of like being a part of a cult, there's no unique use for it.
     
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    Python is a rarely used language? Maybe 10 years ago! YouTube is written almost entirely in Python, and it's one of the very few languages used at Google. The popular site Reddit is also written in Python, along with lots of other massively popular websites. In fact for web development I'd say python is second only to PHP!
     
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    Tarkan Peon

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    Google is like one of the only companies excessively using python.
    Reddit ok cool one more.

    Python, is simply an OOP language just like PHP, except a little older and rarely used. One reason for that is its terrible syntax, with whitespaces actually being interpreted (that's just bad). But some major websites use them, because they can, and it could be more secure (less people know about python vulnerabilities).
     
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    Tarkan: What gives you the impression that Python is rarely used? Or that significant whitespace is bad?
     
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    Yes that proves my point. I'm not saying Python is as rare as LISP or some crazy language. It's one of the "general languages" that a lot of people know about. However, it is rarer amongst those top languages, because it has nothing advantageous about it. Perl and PHP can be used for Web, and thus no advantage in Web development. C++, C#, Java, Perl is also used in programming/scripting and so Python doesn't have an advantage there either.

    Some people prefer it of course, but it's not enough to say "let's make a subforum quick!". Hence why I said you'd see a C++ C or C# subforum before that. Although, since this website relates to web, Perl and Python subforums being added is more likely.
     
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    Tarken - Python is becoming a very mainstream language. It's not the top language but it is in the top 10.
     
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    I disagree with Tarkan about the assessment of Python in terms of both popularity and it's advantage. But of course that's been covered elsewhere many times by people with a lot more credentials and knowledge.

    I do agree that C# and Java is more popular than Python. But in the context that we are talking about which is web development my guess is that Python is more relevant than Perl and C++. But I would think there is enough traffic/post to C#, Java and Python. So, I'm surprised that C# and Java is not already there. I guess then the questions is why so stingy?
     
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    Python is nowhere near the popularity of Java, C#, C++, C, PHP, any of those languages. I am not sure why you argue about it. There is no clear advantage to Python that other languages don't have. It's simply a newer Perl basically with different syntax and OOP capability. It has no unique advantage, hence why it's not as popular to program in.

    Why should someone go out and learn Python for Web programming when PHP servers are readily available in every server and easier to program with. Why should someone go Python in programming when they already can learn C++ or Java for all the same capabilities and more efficient compilers and advantages with Java and C++. C# as well is pretty worthless just a marketing ploy by microsoft to guarantee the future of Windows Operating System (because C# developers will demand it; and so will companies that have been dumb enough to program in it).

    Learning other languages are fun, sometimes people like it, sometimes people see some companies paying more so they learn Python or C#. But the reality is C++ and PHP have the highest advantages in programming and web development.

    If you're an extremely big Python fan, I'm sure you may disagree as will a fan of C#. But they will still be wrong.
     
    Tarkan, Dec 17, 2008 IP