How long have you need an editor, jjwill? How many sites have you added to the directory? You REALLY need to get caught up on the DMOZ-Resourceless Zone information line, jj. That one was debunked long ago.
Based on DMOZ editors' replies, I would guess about all the sites that are listed on the page http :// www . ampland . com / 18 . html (remove spaces) meet the DMOZ requirements and can be listed. In fact, almost any page linked on that site could be listed on DMOZ. Why, because as they say, they have at least 12-16 pictures, so they're image galleries. It doesn't matter that all the links on those pages are to affiliate sites or subscription pages.. Am I right, DMOZ editors ? Guess I should add an image gallery to my site and submit it then...
You must be joking, what other content are you taking about? There is only a clickable link to the main porn site that this site is affiliate to. The 15 images which is even less than the usual 20 is only used to get a listing for this doorway apge. click on the links and after that try the sign up link or webmaster link and it will take you to the real sites. 1,5,10 link goes to bellababes which in reality is platinumbucks if you click on webmaster 2,3,4,8,9 goes to macandbumble which in reality is bumblecash You can also check the affiliate ID on each link for the sign up. I didn't' check the rest but you are welcome to check those since I am sure it is just different affiliate programs. Are you saying that 15 low quality image that anybody can sign up for an affiliate program and download from the main site is such high quality and unique content that deserves a listing in DMOZ? There is no navigation to any other page of this site, just a link to gallery and an enter link for main site, if this is not a doorway page, then what is? I invite everybody to visit those sites and make up their own mind about who is telling the truth here. Link to this site listings in DMOZ.
Keep spinning the truth gworld, just keep it going! You asked if these sites are doorway or affiliate pages. I showed you that according to the ODP guidelines, they are not. If you want to use definitions taken from the "GWORLD ZONE" then have at it, but your definitions don't have much to do with what the ODP guidelines have to say. I didn't say that at all. That came straight from the "GWORLD ZONE", not from me. Keep spinning buddy. I said that these pages are not "AFFILIATE DOORWAYS" according to the ODP guidelines. If you want to argue that these pages don't have enough content to warrant a listing, then we could discuss that. But that wasn't your question so I didn't address it. It's very convenient of you to change your complaint after I show your original complaint to be false though.
Thank you sid for your honest opinions... I guess if thats what you truly see than no-one can argue with you. However, in the same vein, I'd ask you to have another look at where these sites end up and understand equally, that for some these pages DO seem to be doorway and affiliate pages There does seem to be a really, really fine line between what you are saying and what people 'percieve' as a simple scam to get more sites into Dmoz. I'm still unconvinced if I'm honest. And why these 'pages/sites' whatever you'd like to call them are listed 35 times also raises still more questions. But thanks for your honest answers.
My original post stand and you just made "assumptions" that there is a content in those pages and built on your excuses on false assumption. sidjf People are no fools, everybody can see what you have done. Hell, you could not even fool shygirl who likes to believe you.
I wouldn't call it a scam, but obviously adult webmasters are going to manipulate their sites to get the highest google ranks/most pagehits/most ODP listings possible - just like any other website trying to make money. I think I've already explained this extensively. No adult domains are even in the top 100 most listed domains in the ODP. If you want to argue (as minstrel is) that no domain should have this many listings, then I would see that as a valid arguement. To simply pick out Adult domains and complain about them doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I also want to point out to you that I'm not defending the listing of these sites, merely pointing out that according to the ODP guidelines, they are not "AFFILIATE DOORWAYS".
Yes, I'm counting on that. I wouldn't advise coming out of the "GWORLD ZONE" any time soon...reality might frighten you...
Well, honest people call it exactly that. There is no difference between BBC, CNN and this site with it's 15 pictures, is this your argument? Sidjf I think you underestimate the shygirl and think you can easily fool her but I think she has fooled you by making you believe that she doesn't understand these things and can be easily fooled.
lol, I think you're a bit of a nut...but that's about it. I already told shygirl that she shouldn't be trying to figure out ODP policies based on postings on the DP forum. If she has a serious question she needs to take it to the ODP forums where she will get a diverse set of answers - not just from the few ODP editors who post here. Don't take my word for anything shygirl - go to the ODP guidelines and forums for answers. By your definition then, any webmaster who employs any SEO tactics is a scammer and should not be listed in the ODP. I'm sure you've tried to optimize some of your own sites, so you are admitting that you are a scam artist and none of your sites should be listed (does the spin look as silly and pathetic when I do it as when you do it?).
gworld, you're a DMOZ editor AND you're well versed in ADULT GUIDELINES, ADULT PRACTICES, ADULT PROBLEMS, ADULT WEBSITES and "AFFILIATED DOORWAY SPAM". I am a DMOZ editor BUT I am not, nor have I ever been an ADULT EDITOR, or an owner of any adult websites. gworld, I asked you if you are corrupt but you never answered me. ARE YOU A CORRUPT DMOZ EDITOR? If you are not corrupt, please tell us exactly what you are doing to clean up the problem areas that you are SO aware of, but I don't understand. Why do you refuse to correct the problems you see? And if you are just a corrupt editor who won't fix the problems, then why should I let you dictate to me how I will spend my time? You are an editor who won't work on correcting problems you claim you see. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Minstrel, you're a smart man. Don't you see the glaring hyprocrisy in editor gworld's posts?
That is a bit too simplistic to be honest. If you don't edit within Adult dmoz how could you do anything at all to fix things there ? You'd have to be an Adult editor or higher and obviously have the correct permissions in the individual categories discussed. Otherwise, apart from debating the issues raised, internally or externally theres not a whole lot an editor can do really ?
LOL I have just spent the last 30 mins reading through this whole thread, for what I have no clue, but I would like to point out with the opinions Sid has in relation to what is doorway or affiliate pages I say with his knowledge we should make him Head Of Engineering At Google, I know I could get the number 1 spot then. Annie I have no clue if Gworld is an editor at Dmoz but whether he is or isnt after what I have seen this man accomplish with his post on DP, I think Dmoz should put him in CHARGE of ODP, but then again if he was, Dmoz would be no more cause he would get rid of all the corruption within the directory.
Do you know where gworld edits? What makes you think he doesn't edit in Adult? I'm not an Adult editor, yet you and gworld want to hold ME responsible for problems in Adult. So, right back at you. Get together with gworld and go do something good.
He is. And a corrupt one apparently. Yet no one on DP cares about that, because you only want to believe that corrupt editors exist. Gworld has accomplished nothing. Dedicated editors have done a lot of work that you want to credit to gworld, but that doesn't change the reality. Are you really that happy that he chased off jimnoble when he was going to help you? Is that the kind of accomplishment that impresses you?
Annie I do not believe that Jim was going to help, for some reason I have pissed off a couple of editors because I speak my mind or there is an editor and I have my ideas that use to be a webmaster of mine that has an axe to grind with me for firing them. Maybe I am bias about my site, but I believe it is the best site for my appropreiate category. No matter what I say, what I do, who helps or who doesnt, my site will never be listed in Dmoz. Would it be nice...sure, does it matter a great deal...No Annie I think you are truly one of the good guys/gals but we all will have differing opinions. I think someone such as yourself or Gworld would be a good leader of Dmoz IMHO. This good old boys club of keeping out competing sites or site owners that have offended the fragile ego of some editors is coming to pass, I truly hope that people such as yourself will land softly with the new directory that will replace Dmoz.
Do you mean the same place that couple of editors that can be very well the same person can tag team her and scare to her to death, so she will accept anything that you say? You are right, what is there to lose, if she doesn't get scared and quit complaining, there is always the possibility to cancel her editor account, right? I think, shygirl only needs to look at your behavior toward vulcano in internal forum, to understand that DMOZ is no place to have open and honest discussion about anything.
If DMOZ editors want to discuss editing guidelines with other editors they should use the DMOZ internal forum. You have claimed to be an editor. Just for the other people wondering about the answers 1) Are these pages affiliate pages? B) These are not affiliate pages. Atleast not according to DMOZ guidelines 2) Are these pages doorway pages to the main porn site? B) These are not doorway pages. Atleast not according to DMOZ guidelines 3) Is this type of listing permitted under DMOZ adult guide line that states: B) Yes, It is permitted 4) Are these pages listed in DMOZ? A) Yes
I only checked the (current) first 5 links. None of them are listable. As they are not sites. We don't list single galleries, we only list sites with galleries.