More fun with DMOZ.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by gworld, Mar 20, 2006.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #141
    How about you talk with Admins and having a poll in DMOZ, to decide who is honest and telling the truth and who is living in alternative reality? Do you trust your fellow editors or do you think you are the only one who knows the truth? ;)

    You still haven't answered why such pages that are against DMOZ guideline, listed 35 times. :rolleyes:
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #142
    There is a lot that hasn't been answered. Every now and then I allow myself to get fooled into thinking sidjf might at least try to answer them and then we get the same old same old again. At least I have no such illusions about lmocr - we KNOW she has nothing to say.
     
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  3. sidjf

    sidjf Peon

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    #143
    Every once in a while I get close to trying to answer them, but then gworld goes into "GWORLD ZONE" overdrive and I get so disgusted with his nonsense that I decide it's not worth the trouble to have a serious discussion. ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #144
    Let's make it simple and you can answer these questions step by step. ;)

    1) Are these pages affiliate pages?

    A) These are affiliate pages.

    B) These are not affiliate pages.

    2) Are these pages doorway pages to the main porn site?

    A) These are doorway pages.

    B) These are not doorway pages.

    3) Is this type of listing permitted under DMOZ adult guide line that states:

    "Image Galleries

    Sections for groups or galleries of pictures, listed by category and type: membership, AVS, or free.

    Doorways and affiliate sites are not accepted. "

    A) NO, It is not.

    B) Yes, It is permitted

    4) Are these pages listed in DMOZ?

    A) Yes

    B) NO

    This way is easier for you to answer, so you don't get confused. ;)
     
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  5. sidjf

    sidjf Peon

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    #145
    Do you want the answers to be based on the reality of the ODP guidelines or the "reality" (I use the term losely) of the "GWORLD ZONE"?
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #146
    Very good set of guidelines Julian, pure genius. :)

    May I add one more question to your guidelines, considering that your working with volunteers here? Question 1 should be:

    1) Do I feel like editing in PRON today, or would I rather do another topic?

    A) I want "PRON"

    B) I want puppies.

    C) I want to do something else.

    And then we can carry on with your list for those editors who choose A.

    OK, Julian, can we please do that? Freedom is a pretty cool concept if you stop and think about it. Please, let us excercise some freedom over our own lives.

    Love and hugs to you good buddy. Sweet, sweet puppydog hugs today, as my mood is with puppies and not pron. Lick, lick, ahhh puppy breath..
     
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    sidjf Peon

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    #147
    By the end of that post I wasn't sure if you had picked puppies or porn! :eek: :D
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #148
    Which brings us back to the real issue, volunteers should be free to pick puppies or pron, and it's really no body else's business.


    pant...pant.. arooohh
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #149
    sidjf, Annie

    I wonder why you don't want to answer simple questions to clarify the guideline that obviously is so "confusing" for even DMOZ editors. :rolleyes:

    Since you don't want to discuss DMOZ adult guidelines and obviously disagree with this part of Guideline that states:

    "Image Galleries

    Sections for groups or galleries of pictures, listed by category and type: membership, AVS, or free.

    Doorways and affiliate sites are not accepted. "

    may be you should suggest to admins that they should change it to this:

    "Image Galleries

    Sections for generating profit for adult webmasters and improving doorway pages serp.

    Doorways and affiliate sites are accepted, especially when it benefits our editors. " :rolleyes:

    Then the problem is solved and corruption is according to DMOZ guideline but on the other hand, will be hard for DMOZ to keep up the pretend of honesty. ;)
     
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    #150
    I'll answer the question, I just need to know what reality you want the answer to come from first. Do you want me to answer based on the reality of what the ODP guidelines say, or based on the "reality" of what is coming from the "GWORLD ZONE"?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #151
    Start in a "ADULT EDITOR ZONE" that thinks corruption and disgracing the directory by deliberately listings pages against guideline is actually a good thing. ;) :rolleyes:

    It is 4 simple multiple choice question but it seems you are so scared to answer it.
     
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    #152
    By golly, you've nailed it again old chap! :rolleyes:

    If you want to know what the ODP guidelines really say about these sites, I'd be more than happy to explain it to you. If, on the other hand, you're sure you already know the answer to the questions and just want me to respond so that you can throw more "GWORLD ZONE" gibberish at me, then there's really no reason for me to respond is there...
     
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  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #153
    :confused:

    So... does that mean you DO know the answer or you DON'T know the answer?
     
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    #154
    To what? ODP guidelines or "GWORLD ZONE" version of ODP guidelines?
     
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    #155
    I would suggest reading Watzlawick, and what he says about the illusion of alternatives.;)
     
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    #156
    Could you just answer the A's and B's please...

    It isn't only gworld or if you really want to amuse yourselves 'Gworldzone' that's interested.

    The last few posts have been avoiding the questions posed just a tad I feel.

    So according to Dmoz guidelines simple A and B answers would be really helpful for those who are still a bit confused by the whole thing. As so many of us, editors and Dp'rs alike so obviously still are.

    Ps Jwill as far as I can see Gworld has quoted the guidelines ad verbatum from the official dmoz text itself.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #157
    I don't think jjwill is here to answer questions, shygirl. I think he's here to try to obscure them. And he's getting frustrated because we're on to him.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #158
    Thank you. It is nice to see that someone still cares about DMOZ official guideline instead of some unknown reality guideline by "DMOZ adult editors". :)
     
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    #159
    Well to be honest, i dont edit in adult so I wouldnt pretend to be authoratative. So I wont. I enjoy editing when I can and am glad to help with any honest questions about the ODP if I know the answers. On the other hand, I wont get into a circular arguement that has no end. So I'll leave it at that. What actually frustrates me is when someone asks a simple question here and you two hijack the thread to push your causes. I would bet that gworld is taking out his frustrations on the ODP because he cant get enough of his porn sites listed. :rolleyes:
     
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    #160
    Ok, I'll quit screwing around since shygirl asked...

    I'm ready for gworlds bombardment of "GWOLRD ZONE" nonsense.

    Here are the answers according to the ODP guidelines. Please note that these are most likely not the answers if you are in the "GWORLD ZONE".

    1) Are these pages affiliate pages?

    I didn't look at every single one of the 35 almightyzues listings, but none of the ones I looked at had affiliate links on them (links with affiliate tags). But, even if they did, the guidelines state (bold mine):

    In other words, a site can contain some affiliate links can still be listable as long is has actuall content (pictures in this case) as well.

    So the answer is

    B) These are not affiliate pages.

    2) Are these pages doorway pages to the main porn site?

    Doorway pages are pages that have no actual content (or very little content) and only serve to drive traffic to another page/site. These pages have content (pictures). Yes, the main purpose of the site is to drive content to another site (just like any other site with ads) but the fact that it has content means it is not a doorway (just like any other site with ads and content).

    B) These are not doorway pages.

    3) Is this type of listing permitted under DMOZ adult guide line that states:

    "Image Galleries

    Sections for groups or galleries of pictures, listed by category and type: membership, AVS, or free.

    Doorways and affiliate sites are not accepted. "

    As I have shown, these sites do not meet the ODP definition of affiliates or doorways, so

    B) Yes, It is permitted

    4) Are these pages listed in DMOZ?

    A) Yes
     
    sidjf, Mar 24, 2006 IP