More fun with DMOZ.

gworld - thank you for your answers. I really didn't think you had it in you.

As a follow up to "It has no content", do you not consider 15-20 thumbnails that link to fullsize pictures to be content?

 

NO WAY! We don't do that in Shopping. We know better in Shopping.

Of course this is just my opinion as an individual, I'm not speaking for DMOZ or for the Adult branch.

Heading you off before you apply "as a follow up to "It has no content", do you not consider 15-20 thumbnails that link to fullsize pictures to be content?" to shopping, No I would not in Shopping. Shopping is very strict.

 

NO. The same way that I will not consider 1 page with some pictures of IPOD and a description of it that sends the customers to Amazon, a content that should be listed in DMOZ. We list Amazon and not DOORWAY pages to Amazon. If you are really thinking about providing an Adult content for Internet users then list the site that these people are trying to market. There is no need for the user to stop in affiliate doorway page to reach the main site.

 

In most cases, the "AFFILIATE DOORWAY" (please go back to putting it all in caps, it's much more ammusing that way) points to a pay site though. If you had it your way, almost all of Adult/Image_Galleries would be filled with pay sites and no free content. How would that improve anything?

 

gworld, are you a Shopping/ editor or an Adult/ editor? You sound like a Shopping/ editor.

 

There aren't that many different photos of IPODs (at least I don't think so) and most men don't get excited looking at the photos (except the geeks ). Here's a question for you gworld - I've only just looked at a couple of those sites last night - I saw free photos of half naked women. (Got in trouble by my daughter though - because her fiance walked in to ask me a question when I had the site up - you should have heard her ). Anyway - if the only site that was listed was the one that is being marketed, would those guys be able to easily see the free photos? Or take the "easily" out of the question - can you find the free photos from the site that is being marketed?

To be honest, I haven't tried - but I'll chance my daughter's wrath and try when I get home (if I need to ).

 

sidjf, you are getting closer. This would lead to some lean free Galleries, the hypocritic situation we are having now, would not exist anymore, which would be a considerable improvement.

 

If you want to give this kind of "free content" to users then make a category and list TGP sites. ANY TGP site will provide a much better selection than DMOZ of such door way pages and they update their pages on daily basis.

Anyone looking for such crap, can put free porn in any search engine and get tons of such doorway pages.

If anything, listing the main sites in directory will help the users to find the original content directly instead of going through 10 affiliate page. This is were DMOZ can help the adult Internet users by listing the main content sites instead of feeding them with same affiliate doorway pages that search engines feeds them.

 

I agree with that, actually.

I would like to see Adult/Image_Galleries place a lot more emphasis on "quality" and "unique". That, however, does not mean that each domain should just have one listing.

 

Why is that?

 

Those sites will not need more than 1 listing since TGP sites are REAL sites with doorway pages as content. Those sites have navigation and categories, you just need to list the site 1 time and the user can find what ever kind of porn they are looking for, through the navigation in the site.

The only one benefiting from deep links in DMOZ are the "people" who market this "DOORWAY" pages by getting multiple links and improving the serp, not DMOZ and definitely not Internet Users.

 

Because it is a pointless pedantic rule that would merely lead to an unnecessary layer of bureaucratic rules and would ultimately accomplish nothing more than to drive more traffic to the larger pay sites.

From the perspective of the end user of Adult/Image_Galleries, what would be achieved by a rule that limited listings to once per domain - no matter what content is on the various subsites?

 

Wow gworld, this thread is fun. Minstrel will be so disappointed that he missed it.

So, still waiting... what branch do you edit?

Sid, how does Adult treat Shopping sites? Are site listings handled more Adult-ish or more Shopping-ish?

 

I don't see that as a pedantic rule and also since when is DMOZ concerned about the amount of traffic a site is getting?
The quality of many free pictures under Adult/Galleries is pretty low. Like I already tried to explain, it would lead to a considerable leaner section there and in respects of the public impression and perception in would be a great benifit for DMOZ.

 

Haven't you read what DMOZ editors post about me?

I am just a paranoid, conspiracy nuts who is a failed poronographer that could not become a DMOZ editor and list his sites.

It does not matter in what category I edit, as long as you know that I will never use the cover of volunteer work to personally benefit myself. I think, you can see all my suggestions are for improving DMOZ and in noway can be for my own benefit.

 

They could be for your benefit if you were the owner of some large porn pay sites.

 

How is sending the traffic to the main site any different than sending the same traffic to the main site through an affiliate page?
If you are going to fly from New York to LA, do you book your flight through Hong Kong? Most people don't.

Let's look at the site in this example, it has at least 5 doorway pages listed for the same site, lets call it xxx. what happens when user click on 1 link and then goes to site xxx, he decides he doesn't like it and comes back to DMOZ and clicks on link 2, surprise, surprise, he ends up in site xxx, continue this with link 3,4,5. Is he going to take DMOZ seriously or he will think that this is just a marketing arm of site xxx?

You don't even need to have rule about 1 listing/site if you list REAL porn sites because each real site uses different domain for each category. they use each site/domain to appeal to different category of porn users. The only "people" who are interested in multiple links for same domain are the people who are too cheap to buy a different domain for each of their "DOORWAY" pages and instead want to use the same domain for marketing different affiliate programs and improve their SERP by multiple links.

 

Aren't you two needed for another rat pack swarming over at The Resourceless Zone?

So do I. And to those editors who don't, I have to question why not... Is he cramping your style?

 

This is a big part of the problem.

Why are the rules for Adult categories any different than the rules for other categories? or if they ARE different, why are they not MORE stringent, rather than less stringent?

 

Even if this was true which is not, in what way is this any different that benefiting AMAZON, MSN or any other site that is listed in DMOZ. Isn't the decision, not to list Amazon mirror sites or ebay sites benefiting Amazon or ebay?

What is more beneficial for end users that DMOZ supposedly should be concerned with, finding the main site directly or coming to it through annoying "AFFILIATE DOORWAY" stop station?