More fun with DMOZ.

In my previous post I mentioned that one of the sites listed in that category was a door way to sex phone business listed on DMOZ but I decided to look on another site in that page. One of the sites listed under Marisa Diaz category is in a domain called almightyzeus(.)com. This domain is such a high quality site that if you search for it, you will find 35 listings in DMOZ.

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=almightyzeus&all=yes&cs=UTF-8&cat=Adult

There is only one problem with this high quality site, it has no content except doorway pages to different affiliate programs. click on the links and after that try the sign up link or webmaster link and it will take you to the real sites.

1,5,10 link goes to bellababes which in reality is platinumbucks if you click on webmaster

2,3,4,8,9 goes to macandbumble which in reality is bumblecash

You can also check the affiliate ID on each link for the sign up. I didn't' check the rest but you are welcome to check those since I am sure it is just different affiliate programs.

Now compare this to DMOZ editor Guideline:

"Sites Generally Not Included

Affiliate Marketing Schemes

What Does "Affiliate Marketing" Mean?
Revenue sharing between online advertisers/merchants and online publishers/salespeople, whereby compensation is based on performance measures, typically in the form of sales of products and services, clicks, registrations, or some other hybrid model.

.....................

Sites Consisting Primarily of Affiliate Links

Sites consisting primarily of affiliate links, or whose sole purpose is to drive user traffic to another site for the purpose of commission sales, provide no unique content and are not appropriate for inclusion in the directory. "

Need a ready made business?

Join the different porn site affiliate programs, let's say 5 web site which takes about 20 minutes to join. Download the free content from these sites, 15 minutes, run the pictures through a program like album to generate pages with 20 image on each page, 20 minutes. buy a domain for $8, get a $10 hosting /year. Add hundred page to DMOZ and let the links effect your serp. start collecting your affiliate income.

Total investment in time: about 1 hour
Total investment in dollar: $18/ year.

enjoy your DMOZ advertised home business.

 

Ahh... the sweet smell of quality... "the best of the web"...

Here's another wonderful collection... no directory should be without the DMOZ dump from this category:

http://dmoz.org/Adult/Death_and_Gore/

 

gworld, thank you for pointing us to your previous post, I must have missed it. Under the circumstances, I think it's shocking that those sites are still listed. Plus you found more affiliate sites that are still listed? You have told me you are an editor and you've shown me proof so I don't doubt your claims. So if you're aware of these problems why are you allowing it to happen?

Just go fix it and stop wasting other editor's time.

 

Then you're either blind or you have images disabled in your browser. Which is it?

http://www.almightyzeus.com/gals/marisa/babe/zeus.html has 17 pictures of Marisa Diaz and 3 links to http://www.bellababes.com/

I'd say the content (images) far outway the advertising (the three links).

It's unfortunate that you seem to be unable to understand that adult websites are allowed to have advertisements, just like every other site on dmoz. How many adsense ads are there on this very forum page?

gworld - do you think that a requirement to be listed in dmoz is that there are no ads on the site? Because that's the only thing that would make some of your statements make sense...

 

You are joking right? is there any TGP sites that does not have hundreds of these pictures? Just visit any established TGP site and you will have a better selection than whole DMOZ image galleries.

IT IS NOT ABOUT ADVERTISEMENT. IT IS A DOORWAY AFFILIATE PAGE. WHY NOT LIST THE SITES THAT THESE DOORWAYS ARE TRYING TO SELL INSTEAD OF LISTING THESE DOORWAY PAGES?

 

Have you ever heard about people getting their editors account mysteriously disabled? That is the reason.

The problem as I mentioned many, many, many time before is not about one or two listing since deleting it will not solve any problem, just new ones will be added. There has to be a change in policy and procedures and that is only possible through public pressure.

 

I agree with that actually. I've stated before (on dmoz forums) that I don't think the ODP should try to "compete" with TGPs. That niche is already filled, and filled much better than the ODP will ever be able to do. Listing thumbnail galleries doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

However, the category is "Image_Galleries". The content that is required for the category is "Images". To say that the sites you pointed out do not have content is lunacy my friend. The Marisa Diaz one doesn't even have affiliate links, if I remember correctly - just 3 regular links to another site.

Since you didn't really answer my other question (as usual when you are cornered - lol), I will try to deduce your answer from "IT IS NOT ABOUT ADVERTISEMENT. IT IS A DOORWAY AFFILIATE PAGE"

So, you think that advertisements are ok, but no affiliate links? So you want the ODP to remove all sites that contain advertisements with an affiliate link? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to make some sense out of your random "LOOK AT THIS SITE I FOUND!!" posts...

 

I'm still trying to figure out why that's listed in Adult actually...it doesn't even meet up with the Adult guidelines IMO.

 

Exactly.

Annie, the mess that is DMOZ Adult didn't come about overnight. And it sat there festering like a leaky cesspool while editors came and went, some of them trying to draw attention to the issues internally and being ignored, censured, or ejected.... Without people like gworld help to create a big enough noise to bring pressure on the Admins and senior editors who are permitting or supporting this rancid arm of the directory, nothing will change... or there will be superficial cosmetic changes made to appease the current outcry and as soon as it dies down a bit the Adult editors will go back to doing what they have always done.

He IS doing something. And I have no doubt at all that the Adult editors are furious.

 

I imagine it's so that when the Adult editors get tired of talking about and watching porn about plain vanilla child rape they can shift over to something a little different for "dessert":

 

I'm pretty sure that's only a myth.

Bring it up internally, I'll be happy to support you in that discussion.

 

What is the difference between a thumbnail that brings the user to a doorway page and text link in DMOZ that brings the user to the same page, except may be that thumbnail looks better than plain text?

This site has no actual content, except the doorway pages which are made to take users to the real site through affiliate links. Why DMOZ does not list the destination sites instead of doorway pages? This site is nothing more than a collection of doorway pages that is listed in DMOZ 35 times.

 

Are you serious ? You know for the fact that everybody has been trying to figure out gworld's identity for some time. It is good to have somebody like him. The directory has shut its doors to the web community with the essence of Openness as in its Title has become a Joke.

You have made some Radical Changes. I only suggest that you pursue that course. It will be difficult, it will take time but true Editors like you are needed. I still doubt sidjf and his intentions.

And watch out the career of this new Adult Editor. Socks Manly

 

Yes, I'm serious, am I being naive again?

I don't understand what you mean by this. Would you mind sending me a pm to explain it to me?

I get the feeling I'm missing something.

 

Not only, you will lower the chances of probability of gworld's identity. Nice try but not good enough for me. Leave it the way it is.

Just figure it out.

 

Huh? popotalk, I always have trouble understanding your posts, I assume English isn't your first language and it seems difficult for you to express yourself. I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

I'm simply saying that if gworld is an editor he can, and should, make corrections to improper listings himself. No one would connect gworld with any of the thousands of edits that will be done today unless he chooses to point them out. Heck, I'll be editing today so I could be gworld for all you know.

No, if you're trying to say something about a new editor called socks manly, please just say it. I don't have the time or desire to try and figure out what you're thinking.

popotalk, you and I can get along or I can ignore you. You are a fellow editor and I see no reason to fight with you. It's your choice.

 

I may be gworld in disguise for all you know. Let's leave it that way.

 

I wouldn't recognize gworld in or out of disguise but that's not the issue. I'm not asking who he is, I'm just saying that any editor who sees inappropriate listings ought to correct them rather than complain about them. Neglecting to make the necessary corrections while continuing to complain that the problem still exists kinda puts the guilt back on the complainer, IMO.

 

Popotalk, you don't express yourself very well, yet I really tried to understand you. Your failure to communicate clearly doesn't make me dense and leaving nasty red rep for me for trying is not nice.

 

lol

Popotalk use to be ok - His comments made sense and were semi-thought out. Then minstrel called him "pooptalk" a few times and gworld abused him a bit. Now he has turned nasty and rude to editors.

Is the solution to also start calling him pooptalk, or just to ignore him as he makes no sense whatsoever?

Bring on the reds pooptalk.