First of all, I'd like to say that Dustin (BusinessMinded08) is a good guy, so no need to attack him. Second, The affiliate companies aren't stupid, they're not gonna give you the revenue if you're bringing crappy traffic/signups. If they don't make money, you don't. If you bring decent traffic it's gonna convert for the affiliate network, they're gonna make money. Go to the buy/sell section, and the freebies section of this forum. You're gonna find tons of people paying 5$ for someone to complete a free CC adult site signup. They are paying 5$ for the user to signup and getting 30-40$ from the affiliate network for the traffic. But the affiliate networks are not stupid, and they know when people do this, because the signups that they bring don't convert, and they convert to revshare to protect themselves. Bottom of the line, If the company converts to revshare under special circumstances, it doesn't mean it is a scam. They're only trying to protect themselves, as much as there are scammy affiliate networks, there are as many affiliate marketers that are scammy. So in order to decide if a company is legit, ask around, see if anyone has got paid, and their impressions of the affiliate network
^^ Thank you. And I agree that if the company feel's like your converting TOO much for the ratio then you'll likely be converted to RevShare. The last time I checked my stat's, I'm at a conversion ratio of 1:90 (meaning for every 90 user's, I'm getting 1 signup.) If you ask me, that's terrible but maybe I'm doing something wrong. In either case, I just put together a strategy that includes media buying and social networking. Its sure to hopefully payoff and I'm hoping to convert that ratio to 1:50 visitors. For every 50 visitors, I get one signup. Now comes the responsibility of TRYING to get it to convert.
they know it because people send them there affiliate links directly and the referrer shows all the sign ups coming from the dp forum, plus they don't water it down with traffic. Affiliate networks are not advertisers, therefore, a adult network doesn't really care if you're ripping off the adult sites/advertisers, because they're getting paid. Networks work big deals behind the scenes to screw advertisers out of their money, while at the same time banning little flies who try to incentive offers in the freebie section to make it appear as if they're doing there jobs. Not that I'm against that, it pays quite well The thing is, quality is hard to produce unless you have the resources, a blog and a few adwords campaigns just isn't going to cut it for producing a quality campaign and we all know that. I didn't say converting to revshare made them a scam, I said what you said, they're trying to prevent people from abusing there free sign ups... and they are definitely watching backend conversions to determine whether you should be switched to revshare, as well as observing where your traffic is coming from.
I don't think so, If the affiliate networks try to screw the advertisers, they won't last long, they might make money in the short run, but they won't in the long run. Because the advertiser will back down if it's not profitable. The advertiser won't use the affiliate network if it's not profitable. To be profitable it has to be a win win situation, everyone has to win, The affiliate network, the advertiser, and the affiliate marketer. That's why Google is so strict on banning those who do click fraud, imagine, if Google was lenient towards click fraud, everyone would've done it, the clicks would've become useless, and the campaigns unprofitable for the advertisers, the reputation of google would go down, and the advertisers would not use it. That's why you have to be honest and professional in order to really make it big
True, the affiliate companies won't be able to detect 100% of the blackhatters, nothing is perfect, but they generally do a decent job of eliminating the bigger blackhatters because they're easier to spot than someone making nickles
You don't seem to grasp the concept here... The affiliate companies are up to just as much, even more actually, shady business as any blackhatter. I'm saying, the networks themselves usually function on 99% 1% blackhat rule. Trust me, I work closely with networks, I know this. but you can believe otherwise if it helps you sleep