Guys this is my code.. $Results->Drivers= $this->F1_drivers_model->get_alldrivers(); // this gets an array of objects that is just the record IDs foreach ($Results->Drivers as $loop) { $loop->Name = $this->F1_drivers_model->get_drivername($loop->ID); $loop->Cost = $this->F1_drivers_model->get_drivercost($loop->ID); $loop->TeamID = $this->F1_drivers_model->get_driverteam($loop->ID); $loop->TeamName = $this->F1_drivers_model->get_driverteamname($loop->ID); var_dump($loop); } PHP: in PHP5 I get this: object(stdClass)#17 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "1" ["Name"]=> string(8) "F Alonso" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "24" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)#18 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "2" ["Name"]=> string(10) "L Hamilton" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "11" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)#19 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "3" ["Name"]=> string(7) "F Massa" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "20" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "2" ["TeamName"]=> string(9) " Ferrari " } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)#20 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "4" ["Name"]=> string(11) "K Raikkonen" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "21" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "2" ["TeamName"]=> string(9) " Ferrari " } Code (markup): in PHP4 I get this: object(stdClass)(5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "1" ["Name"]=> string(8) "F Alonso" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "24" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)(5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "2" ["Name"]=> string(10) "L Hamilton" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "11" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)(5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "3" ["Name"]=> string(7) "F Massa" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "20" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "2" ["TeamName"]=> string(8) " Ferrari" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)(5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "4" ["Name"]=> string(11) "K Raikkonen" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "21" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "2" ["TeamName"]=> string(8) " Ferrari" } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- object(stdClass)(5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "5" ["Name"]=> string(10) "N Heidfeld" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "10" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "3" ["TeamName"]=> string(10) "BMW Sauber" } Code (markup): What is the difference? (and don’t say that one has numbers objects!!) Im using CodeIgniter to separate the MVC. The above is in the controller, below is in the view. $Results has been passed to the view as part of a key=>value array and is converted back into a variable internally by CI. When passing $Results through to the view, in PHP5 the data object contains the values set in $loop. (line breaks added for readability) Arrayarray(22) { [0]=> object(stdClass)#17 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "1" ["Name"]=> string(8) "F Alonso" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "24" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } [1]=> object(stdClass)#18 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "2" ["Name"]=> string(10) "L Hamilton" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "11" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "1" ["TeamName"]=> string(7) "McLaren" } [2]=> object(stdClass)#19 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "3" ["Name"]=> string(7) "F Massa" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "20" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) "2" ["TeamName"]=> string(9) " Ferrari " } [3]=> object(stdClass)#20 (5) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "4" ["Name"]=> string(11) "K Raikkonen" ["Cost"]=> string(2) "21" ["TeamID"]=> string(1) ... Code (markup): but in PHP4 it does not (line breaks added for readability) Arrayarray(22) { [0]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "1" } [1]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "2" } [2]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "3" } [3]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "4" } [4]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> string(1) "5" } [5]=> object(stdClass)(1) { ["ID"]=> ... Code (markup): How do I pass these values through in PHP4? Do I need to explicitly create instances of the object and if so how do I do that inside the $Results array?