Mischief that could get you put to death according to Islam

So basically your argument is that you have no idea what it means but you're pretty sure that the terrorists and terrorist states like Saudi Arabia which murder apostates, have it wrong. Despite all the Muslim scholars that agree with them.

And, we can just take your word for it.

Start a thread about it then. Stop trying to hijack mine.

 

Being the master of bigots, I'm sure you do. Does it hurt, when you wonder?

 

Does this mean that Bush holds hands with leaders of terrorist states?
Does he know that you call his friends terrorist?

 

Not a very good argument, gworld. But it's probably all you could muster up.



Presidents, both democrat and republican, often meet with heads of state of those who are often less than friendly towards our (not your) country. Do you have any photos of Canadian prime ministers meeting with hostile people?

 

Politics requires playing nice with your enemies sometimes.

 

I don't think hostile people had business relationship with Clinton and financed his companies like Saudi Arabia did with Bush, did they?

So one of you is wrong. Either you and KalvinB are wrong OR Rice and White House are wrong, who do you think is wrong?

 

I agree, you don't think. And when you do, nothing happens.

Your comments:

Your buddy arafish was about as hostile as they came.

That would make you wrong, as usual. Still no bad word for terrorists? You have daily bad words for America. Hourly bad words for Christians. Sporadic bad words for Jews. Lots of bad words for dmoz. But none for terrorists. What does that say about you, gworld?

 

Here it comes! gworld is replying to a post. This is going to be the post were he says something bad about terrorists. I can just feel it

 

Thank you once again for confirming that you have nothing remotely intelligent to say about the subject. All of us here that laugh at you and your friends for being such a good clowns and making a fool of yourself day in and day out, will like to thank you from bottom of our heart for the laughter.

 

Heh, my predictions are getting a little rusty

 

although I can neither read Arabic or have ever read qoran I am going to take a guess as to what to spread mischief in the land is all about
first as you see it must be directed at the land probably means the world so it must be very big and very bad. it seems to be left to the individual's judgment. which means that a person knowing the severity of the gods view in regard to murder, must accept the full responsibility for his action and be ready to be judged in the harshest term by god if he is wrong. pretty much means don't do it to me.
if you want to bring an example of when it would be appropriate Hitler and pol pot come to mind

as an example of a true Moslem's view regarding murder I remind you of Mohammad Ali the heavy weight champion of the world that preferred going to jail than going to war and kill people

 

I wonder what kind of "mischief" they believe the Buddhist monks in Thailand are causing? Oh wait a minute, I know there crime must be the fact that they exist. I read an article awhile back about the muslims killing Buddhist in Thailand. The Buddhist have caused no harm to the Muslims and have tried to live in peace, but the muslims are executing them. This is not the original article I read, but this is about it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6260245.stm
It is very sad because Buddhist people are so peaceful and would not intentionally hurt anyone. I was pretty outraged after reading this. I don't think you will find any real answer to your question Kalvin, but it is interesting to check in here every once in awhile and see you trying

 

Dear God... that is the most immature thing I've ever seen. Islam doesnt promote violence. Radicals promote violence. You want to know why so much violence occurs in the Middle East? Its because its a desert. Its hot and arrid, religion is very important, respect is paramount, and conditions are bad.

Just look at New Orleans.. with people raiding Walmart and stealing TVs in a NATIONAL DISASTER. Was that the work of Islam as well?

Take ANYONE... put them in a desert where they are practically living on top of eachother in squalid conditions, throw in some religion and hope for a better tomorrow, only to see that hope crushed, add high unemployment and a dictatorship and I guarantee you'll make someone go insane. The teachings of Islam have nothing to do with it. It doesnt matter if they read the Koran, the KJV Holy Bible, Mormon scriptures, or the Bhagavad Gita. You'll end up with the same results.

Do your homework and then come back and make a logical statement.

 

Is that a good enough answer for you KalvinB?, becuase I think that pretty much sums it up nicely. Yeah, I think Hitler seems like a good example. But knowing you this will not be near enough good for you.....

Treat others as you would like to be treated- (you'll probably post link to some story where some EXTREMIST misguided muslims killing someone else-But remeber MOST muslims are not like that)

 

We can all find stories of where members of one religion kill another- Doesn't mean that all members of the same faith are like that, or that the religion makes them like that. Christianity promotes violence- OT???!- but you don't believe that do you christians?, I can find stories of Christian EXTREMISTS killing others, doesn't make all christians the same in my eyes

Take a look at pizzaman's post, I'm sure hes provided a good enough answer for KalvinB

 

Correct, I have no idea what Allah really meant when he said that, I don't think anyone does apart from him. Yes, extremists and the lot do have it wrong, Allah will not command anyone to kill another person just because they want to or for another stupid reason. What makes a Muslim scholar a Muslim scholar? Did you know that in the Quran muslims are forbidden to accept the word of scholars, hadith the lot apart from the Quran?, So yes I don't care what the scholars say they aren't right.

 

The point came up in this thread, so it should be answered in this thread., that is if you CAN answer it of course .

 

It's irrelavent to this thread. This thread is about Islam. Not Christianity.

How can you know they're wrong if you don't know what's right?

 

That verse allows for it. That's the point. The only objection you have to what Islamic countries interpret it as is that you don't agree with it because you say so.

The terrorist and Islamic countries interpret that verse the exact same way. How are you going to convince them that they are wrong? Especially when you admit you don't know what it means yourself?

"because I say so" is not an argument, much less proof.

For murder and for mischief in the land. Round and round you go. And we still don't know what mischief in the land means.

 

So what? Islam has death penalty for some crimes, so does USA criminal code or have you forgotten how many people are waiting in death rows in USA? Isn't Christian right even trying to kill the teenagers by claiming they are adult enough to be killed? China has death penalty too and they are not Muslim or Christian.