Just to clear some popular misconceptions.. Islam is not something new created 1400 years ago.. The message sent from GOD has always been the same. Don't worship idols, material things etc. how can they protect you if they can't protect themselves. Quran also says that the people of the book, 4 major books, Bible, Torah included are destined for heaven ( provided they have been punished for the sins first ). Any one living in a remote corner of the World who has never been invited to this universal message sent by GOD would not go to hell provided he/ she has led a decent life. GOD is not unjust - an example would be.... we are told that GOD will resurrect every single creature on judgement day and even the animals e.g. goats which hit one another with their horns will be made to pay for that action by the injured animal taking revenge this is justice.. Every single child is born a Muslim ( which only represents someone who submits its will to GOD - that's all ). Children are then brought up in their own environments to belong to different religions. Every prophet from Adam to Muhammed ( pbut ) was a Muslim.
My post to you was based on your reply to aslanbash. He quoted from Islam point of view and in no way that he is preaching others, not even you, to play on his side.. And that was why I see your post was rather a baseless argument without understanding the topic clearer.. that also shows how you hate Islam so much that makes your post more like emotional rather than rational.. Anyway that was what I thought, whether you agree or not, that's not the point.
It has nothing to do with "hating" Muslim. That's preposterous. It was advice on how to reach the people you want to reach. The first thing said in the thread dismissed their beliefs as false and suggested that Christ was only a Prophet not God. Telling people that their God, well... isn't. Is not the best way to reach people in a positive way. I suggest starting off with "Boy we are so great because even Mohammed said your God was only a Prophet (and by implication less than Mohammed)" is not the best way to reach people. To make the point I stated what if Christians said that Allah was only a Prophet would it make you pay attention? Then your response here is a perfect example of why it doesn't work. One silly what if made you immediately effect an enmity, as I said it would for Christians. My "what if" question made you mad enough to accuse me of "hating Islam" which is total rubbish. (I will again repeat that I am not a Christian.)
The Qur'an came several centuries ago, confirming what we discovered. This indicates that the Qur'an is the word of God.283 (Prof. Joly Sumson, Professor in Gynecology and Obstetrics) -------- I believe that everything mentioned in the Qur'an 1400 years ago is true and can be proven by scientific methods… This must be by inspiration from God, or Allah, Who knows all science. Thus, I believe that this is the time to say: "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."282 (Prof. Tejatat Tejasen, Head of the Department of Anatomy and Embryology, University of Chiang Mai, Chiang Mai, Thailand)
another brain washed guys : The intensive studies of the Qur'an and Hadith in the last four years have revealed a system of classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D... the descriptions in the Qur'an cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century... 276 (Dr. Keith L. Moore, Professor Emeritus, Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology, University of Toronto)
God is not like you, Glorified and Exalted is He Above what thought and imagined. God is The Truth, no one hate Him but the liars God is The Peace, no on hate Him but the evil God doesn't waite for you to love Him, He doesn't care whether you love Him or not, but He tells you how to get His Great pleasure, i.e. how to live in Paradise. 6. He created you (all) from a single person (Adam); then made from him his wife [Hawwa' (Eve)]. And He has sent down for you of cattle eight pairs (of the sheep, two, male and female; of the goats, two, male and female; of the oxen, two, male and female; and of the camels, two, male and female). He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness, such is Allâh your Lord. His is the kingdom, Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (no God but He). How then are you turned away? 7. If you disbelieve, then verily, Allâh is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. No bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, so He will inform you what you used to do. Verily, He is the All-Knower of that which is in (men's) breasts.
I do have questions about the Hadith, though. In Muslim, Vol. III, numbers 513 chapter DCCCLXII Mohamed is quoted as saying: "A believer eats with one intestine whereas a non-believer eats in seven intestines." Do you really believe that I have seven intestines? Is the Hadith considered as important as the Qu'ran? (I am not asking to be insulting, just wondering. It is always best to find out things directly from those who believe rather than assume from information gathered from those who do not believe.)
thanks for making me laugh. The prophet did not mean that the non believer has 7 intestines. It just means that a believer does not over eat. Another hadith says that " One should only eat when they are extremely hungry and should stop eating before they're nerly full " This method would eliminate the need for any diet programmes
Are you serious???Many westerners who are EDUCATED read Quran and its teachings converted to islam, (and you know what they were quite YOUNG too, not 81) not because Alqaeda threatened him. From all your posts i have concluded that atheism is also a faith, and you guys are blindly disbelieving in god and hating all religions, and blaming religions for all and every thing bad.
Quran tells us that every nation has been sent a messenger. It even gives us an exact No. 124000 The message has always been the same. Now I'm not saying that Budha was also a messenger as he has not been mentioned by name in the Quran although others like .Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus (pbuta) etc. have been.
SO???????!!!!!!!! I replied to your false claim that one of the reasons people convert to Islam is they are forced by militants I didn't say everyone who reads Quran converts to Islam!
People should be free to join any religion they want, including Islam. People should also be free to leave any religion they want. That many in Islam believe it is proper to punish people who leave the faith, including death as a penalty are certainly promoting the notion that Islam is forced on people through threats of violence. If Islam is worthy it should stand on its own and need no threats to compel people to stay.
so, If you think that a few people converting is evidence for something then the fact that most don't convert is evidence for the exact opposite. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-437871/Police-protect-girls-forced-convert-Islam.html http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/511142151.htm http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...y-were-forced-to-convert-to-islam-413676.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2153026/posts http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/34516.shtml http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57019 http://www.freedomszone.com/archives/2007/08/christian_professor_forced_to.php Tell me aam_aam, What do you think should be done to those who leave islam? Do you, for instance, agree with the hadiths and believe that they should be executed or do you reject the hadiths?
That is just your assumption.. unless you come out with a proven statistical analysis, I would say you were wrong.. lame..
Again your baseless assumption.. this sort of assumption is only best for gossip forum.. Share with me the exact hadith.. and your understanding about it..