Miracles of Quran - How can you deny it.

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  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #101
    Mr. Rob Jones, if you have an issue with my husband please take it up with him. I do not know why I am involved in this, nor am I interested to waste time trying to find out what is your real problem. Are you looking for the directory owner? Don't you know that pornography is banned in Malaysia and anyone found guilty is liable for a heavy sentence?

    Like I said, try again with new slander. As far as I am concerned, the issue has been addressed, I am not going to entertain your red herrings anymore.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #102
    Oh lordy. Straw man? You honestly think Hitlers association with the Catholic church was sufficient cause to make this statement?:
    Where to begin. Well, for starters, Will isn't a Christian. Secondly, the accusations you level at Christianity were used as an excuse for Islam. This is a logical fallacy known as Tu quoque, or two wrongs make a right. Thirdly, your statement implied that because Hitler was associated with the Church, Christians/Christianity are somehow to blame. Here you commit two logical fallacies- the non-sequitur and the confusion of association with causation. To make matters worse, you made these particular logical fallacies based on half truths(lies). While the official start date of WWII may have been marked by the German invasion of Poland, Japan had already invaded China long before, and Russia invaded Poland two weeks after. WWI marked the death of the Ottoman empire, so by your logic, I guess we'll label that a sickening Mulsim affair.

    If you cared to educate yourself on why Japan and Germany decided to initiate the slaughter they did, you would find some interesting connections between them and your beloved Muslim states of today.
     
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  3. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #103
    LOL. Been waiting for that one :)
    Since you raised the point, try a search on the address of the supposed owner of the xxxdirectory. One of the top matches leads to a dump of stolen US financial data on an Arab website. Wonder why those match up?

    LINK TO SITE w/ STOLEN CC INFO (which I reported to DC this week)
    Link to Search of supposed XXX owner

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    [PS: Don't anyone try those credit cards, I reported that link to a friend in national security this week.]
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    You oughta find out why XXXdirectory uses YOUR Google Analytics account
    LINK: bismikaallahuma and xxxdir same google analytics
    That just seems like a bad thing... kinda makes it look like Bissimaallaka Allahuma and XXXdir are connected. :)

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    Did she "steal" your google analytics number?
    I see the name of your site in that shot too. NOW... you brought up the point about people saying one story and doing another. Ready to explain why you are pushing the Sharia law here if you really don't believe in it?

    Or am I missing the point and Allah is A-ok with promoting porn?
     

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  4. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #104
    This thread is about Miracles of Quran, it seemed that the discussions went too far out of the main topic. Wonder if members can stick to the discussion proper?
     
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  5. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #105
    Wow! There it is in black and white. Perhaps a link to this thread should be sent to the Malaysian officials. Awin, when they come knocking, make sure you tell them you want Sharia justice, no other.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #106
    Will Menj take the fall or will he blame you?
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #107
    So you have someone else's name on another site which is not even connected to our business. Big deal. What is your point really in trying to pursue this and refusing to let it drop?

    As for the Google Analytics, sorry to inform you that we do not maintain a Google Analytics account. Instead, we outsource it to another person (a staff in the company) and he manages it. Circumstantial evidence is not evidence and will not hold up in a court of law. If you think that you have a case, go ahead and report to the authorities. I am sure my husband did not do anything wrong.
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #108
    Not a straw man at all, since the crypto-Christian has been using the "violence in Islam" stick as a tool to beat Islam with. So I decided to bring up a few points regarding his "secret religion" (that is what "crypto" means).

    That is what he says, but judging from the open support for Christianity, he is probably something else. Look it up.

    I am not making "excuses" for anything. The crypto-Christian was making claims about how his New Testament no longer encourages violence in his religion. So I brought up a few examples that debunk this. Its not too hard to understand where I was coming from.

    So all that straw man and red herring arguments you presented in the last two paragraphs really has nothing to do with what I was trying to say. Too bad.
     
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    birja Peon

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    #109
    That's why i asked administration to close this topic. It won't end.
     
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    #110
    From what I understand the penalty for pornography in Malaysia is something like 12 years in prison. Or around $500,000.00 to buy your way out.

    And I am aware of cases where it took a lot less evidence to press charges and convict. If I were you, I'd seek the Allah you preach to the ignorant or whatever sun or moon god may be listening and hope that members here have less of a vindictive nature than you so freely encourage your followers to embrace.
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #111
    Can we just stick to the topic instead of presenting silly red herrings that does not contribute anything to the thread topic?
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

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    #112
    You mean like accusing me of being a Christian? :p

    The topic of the thread is dead. All "Miracles of the Quran" have been debunked. The miracle now is how you continue posting after being completely shamed.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jun 24, 2010 IP
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