Miracles of Islam in Modren world

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  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #81
    He was "reading the original Arabic version",
     
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    #82
    I mentioned it earlier. You are not obliged. So since you don't want to, it's okay!

    Actually, I'm against beating, hitting or any kind of violence. And yes, the Quran is outdated in some ways. But that's normal, that has more than 1K years and you know the changes that happen in just 30 years!
     
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    #83
    I was translating for you. If you want to argue about my comment (between parenthesis) in the first point, then it's science. But Science is not immutable. Some theories argue that the brain is plastic, the others confirm not.
     
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    #84
    Thanks, that was what I was looking for. If all Muslims realise and accept that then they'll get the respect they deserve.
     
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    #85
    I'll go further, I don't want anyone too -- because I don't want any woman to be subject to that.

    Your argument is like saying "The Quran supports bank robbing, but don't worry because it's not mandatory."

    This is not a "reasonable" stance.
     
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    #86
    Not when he ads on that Quran is outdated and he will never do or support such a thing. TBH Muslims are not in a position to change the Quran just like you can't change the bible. Denouncing is the best that one can expect.
     
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    #87
    Except he didn't denounce it -- he is supporting the view that hitting a wife is a husbands prerogative.
     
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    #88
    But I'm supporting CHANGE. And yes, we did it here. In Tunisia, you can't hit a women. No, not only a women, but even a robber (unless he attacks you). Am I with the new law? Yes. Is their violence in Tunisia? Yes, but rare; the same in US or France (mostly due to psychic conditions).

    So what's wrong? There are always people who do violence. The pictures you put are not "light hitting". It's aggression. It's rare, but exist. Is it done by Muslims? No. Why? Because once you have derived from the rule, you are no longer a Muslim.

    Finally, I'm not supporting that view. I'm just confirming that the Quran mentions it. Can you quote the sentence where I mentioned my support.
     
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