Man this is stupid .... so why did croatian forces kill innocent serb women and childreen ? It was a freaking civil war.... Just for a reminder. In the last war more serbs were killed than croats. Go figure this out now... And you still don't get it do you ?
So you are unable to answer simple question and yet you acusse me of not getting it!?! I agree, this is stupid. If you want to claim something be sure that those claims are not nonsense on which you can't give direct answer. That coming from a guy who said this: "Now go and count everything not just excerpts that suit your agenda here." sounds like a bad joke.
If we look at the whole picture it is even greater shame for croatian people....so I don't know why you have a problem with this excerpt ? And what question are you talking about ? I don't know what went in those maniacs heads when they killed all those people. I don't know what all those politicians were thinking when they pushed their people into the war. I don't know why you expect some answers from me when you already know the answer yourself. You are pretty much convinced that you are the one and that's it. I just presented you some historical facts. I don't care if you don't like those and facts are not "compatible" with your perception of the balcan history. But still facts are facts and those are ... let me repeat again : Croats killed more serbs than serbs killed all the others together and they are still behind for couple hundreds of thousands.... That is why you went bezerk and even PMed me You PMed me in reply to my business proposal of few days back. But you didn't answer my PM ... you answered it regarding this thread going all bezerk and talking in foreign languages. Totally offtopic. How lame is that ? Satisfied with my answer ?
Not at all. You didn't answer it at all. I'll repeat my question again in hope that you will get it this time: What did innocent people killed by serbian forces during Balkan wars had to do with genocide commited by nazi Ante Pavelic and his regime? And please, stop with that "facts are not "compatible" with your perception of the balcan history" BS. I know very well what kind of evil creation was NDH and what nazi regime leading that creation did to serbs and jews. You won't find any of my post defending such evil things. So please, instead repeating same old story, just answer my question. You called my entire nation genocidal and yet you want to do business with me and after that you are surprised why I asked you are you serious? loil how lame is that!
I answered it to you. I don't know what they had to do with it and I don't know why and what not. Obviously they killed them because the others killed them and the other way around three times. You get it ? And now I am sure you didn't get it what I wrote since what you are asking me has nothing to do with people beign scared. And they were scared because croats killed them in hundred of thousands in couple of concentration camps. And those that they didn't get into concentration camps they killed on the spot. And when people are scared they do all kinds of crazy stuff ! They can even hurt innocent people yes.... No you don't defend anything. You deny it ! And you are pointing fingers at others and their crimes while your backyard is full of even worse things on much much bigger scale.
Once again I will repeat my question: What did innocent people killed by serbian forces during Balkan wars had to do with genocide commited by nazi Ante Pavelic and his regime? Is that sound to you like I am asking you why they killed those innocent people? It doesn't sound to me like that. You keep repeating what croat nazis (not croats! stop with that generalization!) did to serbs during WWII so I'll ask you for 100th time in hope you will get it this time: What did innocent people killed by serbian forces during Balkan wars had to do with genocide commited by nazi Ante Pavelic and his regime? It is you who were implying that those innocent people are not innocent, not serbs who killed them so I am asking you simply question on which you obviously don't have answer: Innocent people killed by serbian forces during wars on Balkan from 91. to 1995. had nothing to do with Ante Pavelics nazis. Those people didn't commited any crimes. If you have any futher problems to get my question just ask. Where?!? Care to quote those denies? There's only flowers in my backayrd. Feel free to visit me and check it. Crimes were commited by people who have their names and they got what they deserved. I have nothing to do with those people and those crimes. Is that hard for you to get that?
yes your raging nationalist ego was attacked by the serb minority...after killing us off in WW2 and croat tito splitting us up and making new regions to keep you small guys feeling secure and after ethnically cleansing our population in the bosnian war you still claim we attacked you LOL... who said yugoslavia was bad? i only said it was croat titos creation and all croats sucked up to tito mighty hard i dont know why the sudden change of mind? oh right its because of greed and your raging nationalism/separatism...no need to hijack planes any more for franjo eh? you never did explain why the change of heart and why you stopped kissing croat titos and started kissing franjos ass? or right you dont know you just enjoy being a nationalist it makes sence to you LOL... so you went to war over a country you already had? RIGHT! LOL... sure we made croats kidnap planes and plant bombs and kill cops in the USA...it was the serbs putting a gun to tudjmans head to employ convicted terrorists in his office LOL....i love how you have no sense of any justice of what is right or wrong...if tudjman or some croat nationalist did it= auto approval no matter what...sure we started it LOL...not your GREED AND NATIONALISM LOL no hes just stating that karazdic is a amateur monster compared to some croat politicians... srebrenica was muslim victims you went to war with the bosnian muslims too whats your point? and quit the srebrenica when it pales compared to jasenovac and nazi independent croatia NDH LOL...
Post after post after post you repeating same old mantra... Are you trying to insult me or upset me by any chance? I've already posted a lot of facts about Oluja yet you keep claim it was attack of 175.000 soldiers on 200.000 serb civilians. It would be just waste of my time to post all facts again. I should just switch to your "arguments" you use a lot as I can see: "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA". It's actually strongest argument you provided so far...
UNITED NATIONS facts not mine...i saw the 100.000-s with all their belongings on the highways with nowhere to go on their tractors and with old people and children wrapped in blankets...brought them food and clothes and water...and endless line of refugees right up to the horizon... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm#War_crimes oh and what about all those croat generals facing the war crimes tribunal over this? LOL this is just my imagination? the tirbunal is tripping out? In June 2008, during the prosecution of Ante Gotovina at the Hague, Canadian general Andrew Leslie claimed between 10,000 and 25,000 civilians died in the operation. happy ethnic cleansing/mass murder day! (according to the UN and Hague war crimes tribunal not me) not trying to insult you because you have no honor to insult LOL...you cant even admit the simplest of things...you quote croat figures about serb loses in your arguments AHAHAHA why ignore the UN figures? oh right its because you have no respect for human life outside of croatia and no matter how barbaric something is if its against your precious little franjo it gets your seal auto approval... you are the one who does not post facts and ignores the ones i post...sure you quote a croat source from time to time LOL its very non biased just like franjos "maual on guerilla warfare" LOL...get real you are making a fool out of yourself...quit denying oluja or start a thread on it and we will see what the world thinks LOL...ill give you a chance to post first so that you dont claim i steer people to see it my way LOL... "operation strom" sounds peaceful and legit no doubt LOL...do you break out the best bottle of wine? LOL
So when some canadian general claims something that makes it fact? You should read definition of word "fact". You post a link to source for your claims and than post a claim made by some general like it is fact and yet on link you've posted you can also find these claims: . So there's also sebian claims about civilian casulties but those numbers are not enough for you so you picked biggest one. Sorry, it is not fact because someone said so. As far as refugees... Yeah, they fled and they fled because they were fed with fear since WWII and everyone can see from your posts what kind of propaganda they were feed with. It's funny how you avoided to say single word about peaceful intergration on occupied eastern Croatia back into our legal system. I wonder why... Aren't UN just US puppets according to you? Why should I care what US puppets bubbling about? Operation Storm was legitime military operation (who said it was peaceful?) against criminal regime who were occupying parts of our land.
joke: croatian helsinki commitee AHAHAHAHAHAHAAA now theres a reliable source of info! how much do they put the total serb victims at? 3? i trust the non biased croatian helsinki comitee SOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! thats such a non biased source of info LOL... just answer this: if "operation storm" was "legit" (maybe ante pavelic would agree) then why are your innocent innocent generals facing a war crimes tribunal? answer: its because no matter how many people die this is overshadowed by your raging nationalism i can see that you dont give a shit about any victim of the war that was not croat...it was people like you who started the war...you dont know why but you did so it was the fashion at the time and you went with the flow...now you wont accept any arguments no matter how damning or how obvious... no croat can ever do wrong according to iggysick LOL...
this is such a jewel...so they waited all this time since WW2 until now to flee?? and one day, regardless of your 175.000 soldiers , they just fled because of 50 year old "propaganda" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! hmmmm im confused LOL...so the 200.000 that fled were influenced by "propaganda" but the ones that stayed in eastern croatia were not? what was the difference? I KNOW! the 175.000 croat soldiers on their way to jasenovac their ass all over again AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! dont try to defend your country you only make it easier for me LOL...
Perhaps you're right because other than "AHAHAHHAHAHA"s between silly claims there's nothing intelligent in atvkings posts so I'll end it right here.