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Might this be the sh*t that sets it all off?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by AGS, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. #1
    Details are sketchy but news is coming in that 15 British Sailors and Marines are being held by Iranian Forces.

    Look at all the shit that happened when 2 Israelis were captured by Hezbollah last year. That really kicked off and as usual hundreds of innocent civilians were killed.

    Is this the opening the neocons were waiting for?

    Newscorp, which owns such terrible Illuminati propaganda media channels such as FOX News in the USA and SKY News in the UK are already playing this in very heavy rotation on SKY, not surprisingly the BBC (also very much controlled and equally as bad as Murdochs pile of shit) is playing this one up heavy.

    Knowing the neocons this could be very very worrying indeed with Cheney and Bush just chomping at the bit to invade another country, especially one that is as oil rich as Iran is.

    Let us hope that this is resolved ASAP and Iran can breath a sigh of relief that it has a few more months before Bush finds the perfect excuse to ruin it.

    Brief BBC report:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6484279.stm
     
    AGS, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Ominous news if confirmed in the coming hours :eek:
     
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  3. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    It's confirmed mate, and very ominous.

    These bastards (Cheney and Co.) only need an excuse and this could be it.

    That is the problem when a country like Iraq that was illegally invaded has British ships trawling up and down a very thin waterway very close to another (currently uninvaded) country such as Iran.

    If the illegal invasion of Iraq didn't happen then the British ship would not have even been in the danger zone in the first place and hence we wouldn't have this problem.

    I have a really bad feeling about this one.
     
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  4. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    This seems very peculiar. Why would they let themselves be escorted into Iranian waters? Just say, "Uh, no thanks." What would the Iranians do? Shoot? Ram their ships into the British ships? Couldn't the British call for backup?

    Very odd.

    Oh, there's more:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html

    Sounds like the frigate itself wasn't really involved.
     
    Briant, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  5. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Well if Beckett is involved trying to sort this out, then I suppose Blair will phone his master Bush seems like business as usual

    Another f**k up another loss of life and another increase on Wall Street of the Haliburton stock all in one day

    Those who have doubts and are amazed in disbelief

    I can assure you that is how this sh*t evolves
     
    britishguy, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I just heard this and can't believe my ears. The idea that a British warship gets held up by the Iranian Navy? WTF? We're just too soft for our own good. We could have sunk their rubber dinghy quicker than you can say 'camel shagging scum'.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I knew the Iranians were wanting a fight...it was just a matter of time before the did something about it...
     
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    widewebtalk Peon

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    #8
    This has happened before in 2004 2 British soldiers were paraded on TV with blindfolds etc they were released after 2 days.

    The British are much more diplomatic than other countries so there is no concern right now that this could lead to military action.

    The reason the soldiers will have gone with them it is likely they had no order of action to take in a situation like that.

    I myself would like to see some serious action from the uk government to make sure the iranians think they cannot play these games.
     
    widewebtalk, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  9. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't look good and proves iran is not looking for peace.

    Just remember the german tourist who was fishing and lost way and entered iranian waters. Big time hassle for over one year. Finaly he got released this month.

    Sorry for the Brits though. this is going to be either war ora long time diplomatic hassles with all the emotion boiling over.

    In fact iran commited an act of war.

    Guess why? and here we go again, - read it carefully its worth the time.
    I coudn't say it better

    Cutting the cancer out

    By Marylou Barry

    … And with special thanks to Brigitte Gabriel and her team who forwarded this highly valued article by email. A streight and to the point article which equals truth!

    World Net Daily.com

    Ever since today’s free world first crossed swords with regenerated Islamic imperialism, the word cancer has been a predictable metaphor in the lexicons of many pundits. We can’t ignore it and we can’t argue with it, they say; we’ve got to cut the cancer out.

    Comparisons began in earnest on the heels of the 9-11 attacks. On Sept. 26, 2001, New York Rabbi Ben Tzion Krasnianski wrote:

    “Terrorism is like a cancer, and you never make peace with cancer. Certain battles you don’t have the luxury to grow tired of. Terrorism is a malignant tumor, and you don’t make peace with a tumor. If you play nice with cancer, it will kill you. Show mercy to a tumor and it will metastasize and mercilessly kill you and kill itself in the process. The only merciful thing to do is to eradicate, destroy and pulverize the tumor into oblivion.”

    Yet five and a half years after the bombing of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, our government still maintains open borders, funds terror-supporting entities with our tax dollars, misinterprets clear acts of domestic terror as isolated incidents, welcomes continued immigration from the culture that brought us so much death and suffering, and sends U.S. border guards to prison for having the impudence to do their jobs.

    As we hung on every word of our president’s emotional address following those attacks, did any of us imagine that such inertia would ever again prevail? What has changed in these past five years to enable so many once-enraged Americans to blithely hit the snooze button and fall back asleep?

    In 2006, I underwent surgery for cancer - the literal kind, not the metaphoric. I was blessed with uncommonly talented doctors and technologies that a few generations ago could only have been dreamed of. The cancer in question was a slow-growing, garden variety with a high cure rate, and it was caught - thank God - very early. I am healthier than you are now, so don’t send me any get-well cards.

    However, heading into the O.R. that day I had some very specific expectations. My wonderful doctors agreed with them completely and did not let me down.

    I wanted a medical team that knew what it was doing. I wanted a surgeon who was smart, had received the best training, and had been performing this type of surgery for a substantial length of time. My life was important to me, and I wouldn’t have entrusted it to foreign oil princes, hack politicians looking for votes, liberals infected with political correctness or, worst of all, the United Nations. None of them lived in my body, and had I died because of malpractice it wouldn’t have been any skin off their respective noses.
    I wanted my surgeons to remove the entire area, both the malignancy itself and any tissue close enough to be contaminated. History has shown what cancer does if left unchecked, and I wasn’t going to wait until its spread was imminent just to be fair. I didn’t want them to appease it, negotiate with it or try to make its removal more acceptable to the European Union. My life was at stake. Had any doctor suggested I was intolerant or my response disproportionate, I would have climbed right over those steel railings and hurled him down the hall.
    I wanted competent aftercare, not just glib reassurance that the job had been done and I could go home. I wanted the enemy defeated, not just injured or temporarily contained so someone else could deal with it another time. And I wanted ongoing vigilance, so that any reinforcements that found their way back in could be destroyed before they could mount another offensive.
    If I needed radiation therapy, I wanted it given to me, not, as one writer satirically suggested, to 10 random people just to ensure that no profiling would occur. I still cringe when I think of what I had been carrying around and my utter helplessness to do anything about it. I wanted that sucker profiled, all right, so hard that it would never, EVER think of invading this body again.
    If the surgery proved futile because the cancer had already spread, I at least wanted my family to know I had taken every possible measure to spare them that outcome. So I reported the symptoms promptly, sought the most competent care throughout and followed the advice of those who truly wanted me to live. And I prayed.
    “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant,” Council on American-Islamic Relations co-founder Omar Ahmad said in 1998. “The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”

    What part of his statement are we still not grasping, and why?

    Islamic imperialism, like cancer, takes no prisoners. It is programmed to conquer by force all those who do not surrender, regardless of their worldview, religious philosophy or party affiliation. It cannot revise its murderous goal because that goal is foundational to its nature; that is what it does.

    Cancer patients who have chosen to peacefully co-exist with their symptoms for any length of time all have one thing in common. They are all dead. Oncologists understand this. That’s why they don’t minimize a malignancy’s threat or wait for it to change its mind and go away. They just cut it out and get rid of it so a human life can be saved.

    Doesn’t our country - and the world - deserve the same?
     
    Arnie, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 11 (8 members and 3 guests)
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    The thread is hotting up on DP but the British Government will be enjoying at this time after lunch vintage glasses of Port

    Disregarding the fate of the soldiers :eek:
     
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    csite Well-Known Member

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    #11

    I repeat what i said on the other thread.

    Cry me a river, iranian diplomats were invited BY iraq were arrested illegally by US troops in kurdish areas, iranian soldiers arrest british troops in waters which are disputed between iran and iraq in territory terms, tell me which holds more weight in legal terms? iranian diplomats arrest of this incident?


    Iran asked many times for the release of their diplomats so they can be with their families in time for the persian new year which is now, they didn't, its time iran does the same to coalition troops and see how you like it.

    Ofcourse this could all have been a mistake on both parties parts.
     
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  12. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    I think you are getting mucking fuddled up mate, the Brits were in the 2 dinghy's from the frigate H.M.S. Cornwall. They (the Iranians) wouldn't have even attempted to board the warship mate, unless it was in some Hollywood movie, when Steven Seagal would have entered the ship alone and killed everyone on board, saved the world and possibly even had time for a shag. And all completed within a couple of hours. :)

    d16mans last post in this thread just about sums up what is wrong in this world with his hawkish irrational thinking. :confused:
    He is nothing short of a stupid cucking funt.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    You might be right - like I said, I couldn't believe my ears! Thanks for clarifying.
     
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    "Commodore Nick Lambert, commander of the HMS Cornwall -- the frigate from which the British patrol had been deployed -- said the incident did not involve fighting or use of weapons."

    +

    "The extent and the definition of territorial waters in this part of the world is very complicated... We may well find, and I hope we find, that this is a simple misunderstanding at a tactical level,"

    = (hopefully) quick resolution and release of the soldiers.

    good thing the British military doesn't shoot first and ask questions later or this would be the start of another war.
     
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    That's not good is it?

    Exactly Hezbollah is full of shit like Iran.

    Yes bomb the shit out of them:)

    Do you expect a news blackout or mentioning this news as just a side line like if there was a news station called AGS? This is big news whether it fits your agenda or not.

    Did we not get enough oil in Iraq or enough opium in Afghanistan?

    Try reading what you type, it sounds backward, or is it meant to reflect your thinking? Remember Iran has started all the shit, continuing with their mission of making nuclear weapons, kidnapping troops & wanting to wipe out Israel.

    We all did only people with a topsy turvy mind state thought otherwise.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    Like, which military could you possibly be referring to? :rolleyes:

     
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    News clip quote

    The Royal Navy insists they were operating in Iraqi waters and not Iranian territory.

    Looks like targeted capture by the Iranians
     
    britishguy, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Pretty much what I expected. AGS backing up Iran and selling out his own country. Only in a delusional mind could someone turn around capture/kidnapping of their own countrymen to make the captors the victims :rolleyes:
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    For me it was clear from the very moment I read it first. British Navy is not that stupid to give reasons and the iranians only wanted to help friends. Looming harder sanctions may be another reason to be even more provocative.
    Or has anybody seen anything else about them in the past couple of years?
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    DOH!!! :confused:

    Again I have been a pucking frick and viewed Two-Packs latest shucking fit offering of a crap post. The cumb dunt needs to think more before he keeps supporting terrorists like Bush and Cheney.

    That is 2 of Two-Packs posts I have viewed in the last 48 hours, definitely not good for a mans sanity. :( :(

    Thankfully I am completely oblivious to GTechs posts by now. :D
     
    AGS, Mar 23, 2007 IP