MFA sites. They work?

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  1. stackman

    stackman Peon

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    #21
    MFA is a gimmick that will work for a while, and you may be able to make a few bucks on it. But, don't buy a new car based on your current income from MFA sites. You will be returning the car sooner than you think.
     
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    #22
    Yeah, they works.. But you will get banned soon ;)
     
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  3. Err0r

    Err0r Active Member

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    #23
    Are we confusing MFA with MFA arbitrage here?
     
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  4. shadoze

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    #24
    As of June 1st, 2007... any accounts with MFA sites will be banned.
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    Where do people get this nonsense? Don't believe half of what you read and even less of what Google tells you.

    Believing this type of propaganda accomplishes 2 things. It reduces the amount of competition in many markets, and it gets people to do on their own what Google would otherwise have to put a lot of resources into accomplishing. It's much easier to make a statement, whether true or not and have people take an action based on an assumption that my be false.

    SEO forums are FULL of intentionally false or at best misleading statements.

    The reality.

    1) Yes some people doing MFA get banned, but nowhere near as many as you would think and it often has very little to do with simply having MFA sites. There are many degrees of TOS violations that cause people to get banned.

    2) True, it is more difficult to make money with MFA sites, but this has relatively little to do with Adsense itself but more a factor of the search engines getting smarter as to what they rank at the top.

    3) But, there are a LOT of people who STILL make a LOT of money with MFA sites

    4) MFA sites can take many forms, they can have scraped content, but the type of scraped content can vary greatly, Google's entire site is scraped content. MFA sites can have unique content that is useful to a visitor, that doesn't make them any less a MFA site.

    5) this is not to say that Google hasn't tightened up the rules a bit, they have, but there are a lot of shades of gray in what Google says and does.
     
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  5. haipravu

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    #25
    They may run for a few days but google eventually ban them .
     
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  6. shadoze

    shadoze Well-Known Member

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    #26
    This is total and 100% BS, If you make a claim such as this where is your data to back it up?
     
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  7. danimal

    danimal Active Member

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    #27
    calm down, noob.

    in the last month i have removed at least a dozen mfa sites from the filter that have had their adsense accounts revoked... there is no question that google has cleaned up a lot of mfa sites.
     
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  8. shadoze

    shadoze Well-Known Member

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    #28
    If you read my post, I did indeed acknowledge that Google has tightened the rules.. but a dozen? c'mon, that is such a statistically insignificant example that it proves nothing.. it's no different than a single user going on a forum and stating their account was banned therefore Google is banning accounts,
    it proves nothing.

    You have no idea exactly what they were banned for. Just assuming it was because they had a MFA site will often be an incorrect assumption.

    Google has always banned some accounts, and still are.. and will continue to do it.

    What about the tens or hundreds of thousands of people doing it that don't post anything? You only hear about people who get banned. Not those that don't.

    You need to define what a MFA site is.. and don't say they are all the same because that is not even close to being true. Scraper sites, can be crap, or they can be OK, do you think Google is banning all scraper sites?

    but statements like the one above about them banning all MFA's is as I said, 100% Total B.S.

    There is more mis information in these forums than there is fact, the problem is people read it and run with.. I have been in this business 11 years, and believe me, you can hit people over the head with the truth time and time again, and most of the time the bogus information wins out.

    I can't tell you how many times 'plants' have laid a seed in major SEO forums and then watch it grow, spread and in effect become a false truth.

    think about it, any SE can plant a story in a forum about how they are banning this or banning that, and about 80% of the people who read it will run with it, pass it on and make changes to what they are doing. when the reality, more often than not, is that the engine has done nothing but plant a story. Why commit extensive resources to solving a problem when you can plant a phony story and in most cases get about 80% of the desired effect from people believing it, and spreading it.

    The cost to the Search engine $0.
    The cost to actually accomplish the same end with technology? A lot.

    Example, Cloaking: Do you REALLY believe Google bans cloaking?

    I'm not saying that things don't change, and that everything you read is false.. but statistical analysis based on a dozen examples or "I know someone who this happened to" will lead you down the wrong path more often than not.
     
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  9. oneshot

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    #29
    So, does this mean I should NOT purchase a 50 site pack from someone that I was planning on buying because it will get me banned from adsense? If the answer is yes, how can I get my first adsense site set up? Does anyone have a link they can give me that provides like the basics of starting out with adsense?
     
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  10. Swordfish

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    #30
    i agree with the rest.. do yourself and the internet a favor.. build a quality site.
     
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  11. nobshyip

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    #31
    Yes you shouldn't. Simply a waste of your money. Read up the threads here and you'll know how to begin, start with the stickies first.

    You'll appreciate it when your hard work pays off ;)
     
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  12. Badlands07

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    #32
    I hate when I am trying to find something and all that comes up are MFA sites. I think they are a big waste all around. I know some people make some money off of them, but they only clutter the Web.
     
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    ajitjc Banned

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    #33
    Now a time google is going to ban them.
     
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    #34
    That's right. MFA sites make money for a few months only before they get their SERPs pulled. Now google is also banning their adsense accounts. And you don't want to mess with your adsense account. Maybe try another PPC system or make a proper site.
     
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  15. danimal

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    #35
    except that, unlike you, i saw the sites and i know when they were banned.

    you are a noob who doesn't know squat about the sites that i am referring to.

    your mindless ranting is obviously getting little traction out here... perhaps you'd have better luck defending your mfa sites on a black hat forum :rolleyes:
     
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    Clvrfld Peon

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    #37
    I should believe less than half of what Google tells me? :D

    The above reason is why A BOAT LOAD people get banned.
     
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  18. shadoze

    shadoze Well-Known Member

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    #38
    A Noob ;) Yep, Ok, just because I've just been posting here for a month or so, yep, I'm a noob, I guess my 11 years experience doing this for a living counts for nothing since I am new here..

    People will believe what they want to believe anyway..

    I'm going to say it again, I know people that have been kicked out of adsense very recently, and in almost all cases it was far more than just having MFA pages.. A MAJOR factor is having MFA's and multiple accounts.. there are other reasons, but all MFA's are NOT getting the boot. Multiple accounts is a HUGE issue. Another huge issue is stability. Accounts that jump out of nowhere making a lot of money in a very short period of time, usually associated with multiple accounts, and it doesn't matter if they are under different business names. etc.. a big red flag..

    You're again assuming a LOT, I never said I make garbage MFA sites. You are assuming something that was not stated, I never said I use BH. This is another example of someone reading something then repeating it in a way other than it was stated. I was speaking about MFA's in general..

    I wouldn't expect it to get traction here or anywhere else.. as I said above.. Seeds are planted all the time in these forums and about 70-80% of the people take things as fact without ever looking at all the evidence.

    That's the norm, why would this be any different.

    Yea right, Matt Cutts, he certainly never talks in circles.

    Please define an MFA? as you see it..

    Is it a site that is 100% scraped content with ads displayed that earn money by people clicking on them? A site like.. umm Google ?
     
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  19. jkfriends

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    #39
    Can you clearly describe what actually "Made For Adsense" sites mean? If you have all original contents with Adsense embedded, would that be still considered an MFA site? Primarily the objective is the same to make money but with original contents.

    Can someone clarify this please?

    Thanks.
     
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  20. uglyboy

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    #40
    Made for AdSense





    Don't pay for AdSense ready websites..
     
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