Message for Link Exchangers: PR is dead! Stop requesting high PR for link exchange!

PR still update with some sites. I have one site, 4 months ago it was pr3, now it is pr1.

 

I don't understand why so many people want to close this thread... I don't see any racism or insults here. I simply wonder why most Indian/Pakistani SEO specialists love the PR so much... how is that an insult? I think it's a legitimate topic of conversation.

Do the SEO companies in those countries force their link builders to only do link exchange based on PR? I'm trying to understand what's going on here...

 

Google still updates their PR. I see some changes on my 2 websites. I don't think PR is dead anytime soon or else it'll create panic for Internet marketers and Google too.

 

Congrats, you take the award for the most illogical and self-mutilated tidbit of advice for the week!

1) Freshness of content has NOTHING to do with anything.
2) Rankings, relevancy, and link profile DO.
3) Toolbar PageRank is not PageRank.
4) Even Toolbar PageRank is not totally useless.

I think you were going for a valid point but when you use figures as facts you risk teaching hundreds of people the wrong thing. It's funny how Maile and Cutts were talking about PR is dead (back when they pulled it from Google's WMT's) and now Cutts is talking it up and down in videos again. Anyways, mozrank, blekko too, and other places have values for domains. My opinion is PR5 and up still are an indicator of decent sites, especially if the back link profile is a) legit & b) relevant.

But, Yes, too many people are hyper-focused on PR when they should be focused on other things in the first place.. like GOOD copy, unique ideas, and just all around quality sites and digital assets.. things that GET you links in the first place.

No it wouldn't . Google has an internal point system/PageRank that they use. It's not what we see. What we see was almost totally taken away awhile back. Google said too many people didn't like that idea and said people like seeing it on the toolbar. It wouldn't be a big deal to Google if they removed the toolbar PR at all.

 

I disagree about content freshness...

in my experience a website that is constantly updated with new & unique content brings a more sustainable and long-lasting link juice than a website that hasn't been updated for a year, so YES it is a factor.

Anyhow, I've got over 20 websites ranking on the top and I NEVER worried about PR when doing link building... (actually I did when I started in 2005, but quickly realized it was bullshit most of the time)

That said, if you give me 2 blogs, both legit sites with fresh & unique content, same domain age & more or less same backlinks, but one of them is PR5 and the other one is PR2, I'll obviously go for the PR5 because that's still a metric (the least important metric to me, but still a metric I guess)

 

Google, through Cutts voice, always speaks about quality links. They judge a quality link by PR. So, I want to be a quality link.
If you have other information about how google judge the quality of a link please post it here.
And please do not post things like fresh content to achieve links, because if you are not GOD on Earth or if you didn't discover water on the moon, nobody will post links to you.

 

What is the reason for me to update the information you have pr?

 

I think the information mentioned in thread is correct and I assume it.

 

Most of the domains in the link exchange section and the BST section are dropped domains. My guess is they are sold to non native English speakers because if you grew up reading English you can tell just by looking at 95% of them that they are dropped.

Health sites that are - art-museum-kentucky.org ? gregsmith.biz ? Travel sites that are- newdaleautobodyrepair.com ? tinas-hairsalon.biz ? etc

the other 4.5% you can just look up in google and tell by the backlinks or lack of they are dropped=worthless.

 

But because you can make a correlation does not mean Google does.

You see plenty of sites (think of tools, landing pages, and guides) that rank well without updated content. I'm not advocating against fresh content, on the contrary, but I think the freshness of content has very little do with rankings. Total number of indexed pages do help build up authority but if you have no back links it's just going to be a miniscule amt of PageRank distributed out through oodles of pages. Give me a few high quality pages over a ton of low quality pages any day. Other than that, fresh content can entice bots to visit frequently. I think the past few months a lot of big SEO sites have stated that fresh content may have been "over hyped" in the past. I'll look for those articles. Good conversation.

 

I agree that fresh content as well as good backlinks are the key to a high page rank.

 

PR is still impt imho, definitely with a regular updated website of high PR surely will bring you way up to the SERPs.. If it's not important, google would have abolish this pagerank thing, just look at the pagerank of facebook.com, youtube.com

 

The OP is completely right - as a community we need to move over to better metrics like mozRank mR as a more reliable source of information.

 

Too much black and white thinking here - no racist pun intended - it's shades of grey.

If Google wanted to kill the PR ethos they would kill the PR toolbar.
PR is not ireelevant, but it's not the be all and end all.
And yes there's a difference between actual PR which chnages all the time and toolbar page rank which is updated irregularly.

It's a tool, a useful tool, but it's not the only tool in the toolbox.

And we should beware of seeing what works for our sites as being some universal rule - eg fresh content gets me good rankings vs, I've never updated my content and i have good rankings - your sample size is too small!

 

a great alternative to pagerank is mozrank

 

Like I said in another thread here - PR is more like a fetish..

 

...and yeah - the higher PR the higher "value" has your site. You know... fetish.