media shakers scam or trusted ?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by LiveSport, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. bigbrother1

    bigbrother1 Active Member

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    #21
    You are hearing what you say ?
    All of companyes have the same thing in TOS (reserve the right to ban/cancel account without pay)
    So, if some company decide to not pay someone, this user have nothing to say because of this part of TOS ? =))))
    So, all companyes can steal a user because is covered by TOS. :))
     
    bigbrother1, Dec 26, 2011 IP
  2. wrekoniz3

    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Its not stealing, You are using their service. If you dont follow their guidelines and their terms they are not obligated to pay you anything. Thats the way it works. Its not just a matter of we dont want to pay this person. They shouldn't do that and the only company i have gotten insider information which has told me they do that at Clicksor. They do a tactic called Skimming. Which means they take on a publisher then at the end of the month ban you for no reason and keep your earnings. They are the only ones i have ever gotten information of doing such stuff. Any real network though will not pay you if their advertisers are complaining because you are doing funny business. If you do business with reliable people who have proven track records then you wont deal with such issues.

    By the way, a company can do what they want, at the end of the day its their clients paying for a service and if you or anyone is taking advantage of that in their eyes they will put an end to it. Learn to do business right, and you wont deal with any issues like that.
     
    wrekoniz3, Dec 26, 2011 IP
  3. baobaoda

    baobaoda Greenhorn

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    #23
    Mediashakers.com is legit compay. I use it for 5 years, never miss a single payment.
    LiveSport, you are a CHEATER who uses 0-frames.
    I think Mediashakers won't pay a cheater. No company will pay a cheater.
     
    baobaoda, Dec 26, 2011 IP
  4. bigbrother1

    bigbrother1 Active Member

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    #24
    Is SCAM mediashakers.
    In December i had no cpc campaigns at them, so, i have only tried sometime one hour at few days to check if i will have some good campaigns.
    I got only low CPM campaigns and i have removed the ads from my sites everytime,, i hat 2,5 million of impressions in December, CTR 0,39 and only 39$
    Adi Hurwitz contacted me and told me to provide immediately an explanation why i have 0 conversions in this month.
    My answer was because i had no campaigns, and i have only tried sometime to see if is or not something, i know that CPM campaigns are not counting conversions, or just if the advertiser set the campaign to count, very low paid cpm campaigns i know that never count conversions, so, it is not my fault and my problem if the system have not count conversions in December.
    Now, after ten's of mails i have received again the same answer like 2 months ago, that i will receive my payment only if i have a good explanation for 0 conversions.
    This after i have already explained him this, so, i will not be paid, never, they decided to SCAM me, for just 39$, this after one year of work with them, when i have generated and received the payment without any problem even for 1500 $ at month.
    So, if someone want to be scamed or to work for free for them, try mediashakers ;)
     
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    bigbrother1, Mar 12, 2012 IP
  5. Mediashakers2

    Mediashakers2 Peon

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    #25
    bigbrother1,

    MediaShakers is obligated to examine closely any unusual kind of activity.

    Extreme cases of differences between impressions/clicks/conversions must be looked into. This is done in order to alert and ensure that the publisher's website was not targeted by a fraudulent third party.

    For this reason you were notified and asked to provide inputs regarding this matter.

    According to our policy in aspect of our advertisers, 2.5 million impressions and 0 conversions are a low ROI, and we are obligated to ensure high quality for our advertising, as well as ensuring high quality campaigns for our publishers. When encountering such disturbing figures we are required to look into this and therefore require explanation.

    MediaShakers respect and value paying our publishers on time, as you experienced in the past. We worked with you throughout the whole year and didn’t miss a payment, even in October 2011, when the figures showed the same "problem". When the situation repeated itself in December, we had to ask you to examine the case yourself, before completing the payment with you.

    We would be happy to continue our cooperation with you and you are more than welcome to send us the missing details in order to move forward in solving this misunderstanding.
     
    Mediashakers2, Mar 12, 2012 IP
  6. bigbrother1

    bigbrother1 Active Member

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    #26
    I don't have another details, i have wrote even in my later post what i know, i had no campaigns, so, just impressions of very low paid cpm campaigns.
    If you want you can check better what campaigns i have run in that month to see that they have not activated conversions count, i had 0,02 ecpm, nobody count conversions at that kind of campaign.
    I'm using the ads from diferent ad networks in openx targeted by country.
    In the same time at others i had conversions, the ads was always placed in the same place, is not my fault that i had no campaigns, you know better this but is easily to say like in mails, missing details, i don't have your c.p.anel to see what campaigns i had, but i'm sure that was without counting the conversions.
    I never had this kind of problems at other ad networks.
    If nobody added some campaigns at my account, from where you want conversions ?
    In other months when i had campaigns i earned 600$ from the same number of impressions, so, why you tell me that the advertiser are losing, what losing, i have lose because of missing campaign, no campaign = no advertiser = nobody lose only ME.
    So, don't come here to wrote this kind of s***t, for mediashakers 2,5 mil of impressions paid at 0,02 ecpm is too much, i know, mediashakers want the publishers to work for free :death:

    For example if i had 500$ from 2,5 mil impressions and 0 conversions you are welcome to ask me to an explanation, but not for 39$
    For me 39$ is NOTHING, with this kind of "advertise" here anyone will know to stay away from mediashakers and in what kind are them thinking.


    Never again in this life, someone must be crazy to continue after that kind of experience, now is 39$, maybe in the future will be for much more.

    Later Edit: I had 9500 clicks in December, all was non paid clicks, so, no campaigns, you want conversions from non paid clicks ? Jesus Christ, it is unbelievable...
     
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  7. wrekoniz3

    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #27
    @BigBrother1 its called stop driving horrible traffic to them then expecting them to give you high cpm's. I was driving strictly US based traffic and sent about 50,000 Impressions and made $35 Dollars off it. Just on a test. So you know what that means? You are sending them garbage traffic. I am willing to bet 90% of your traffic is indian or chinese and you are complaining "Why no high cpm" .... Not the way the business works.
     
    wrekoniz3, Mar 12, 2012 IP
  8. bigbrother1

    bigbrother1 Active Member

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    #28
    I have only German and France traf.fic, i don't know why you are talking if you don't read what i have wrote, maybe is to hard for you to understand.
    I have cpm 0,30 - 0,50 at others for my traf fic, but not this is the problem, the problem is that they want conversions from non paid clicks, from very low paid cpm campaigns.
     
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  9. seowebtips

    seowebtips Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Worked with them for a long time, low earnings but payments were always on time.
     
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  10. wrekoniz3

    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    so if you are getting paid such high CPM's why dont you use those networks? why even bother using Media Shakers? They factor conversions into their eCPM, why is that a problem? If you have quality traffic it should drive conversions up. Most of internet marketing is solely for driving conversions. I can say that as someone who works in the industry. You need to realize this, "the problem is that they want conversions from non paid clicks, from very low paid cpm campaigns. " That statement... makes NO sense. If Media Shakers had campaigns that were only looking for conversions they wouldn't be "low paid cpm campaigns" they would be CPA's. Next, conversions from Nonpaid clicks is the description of a CPA campaign. To answer your question...Yes they put CPA Campaigns in their network, as do most networks. That is why you are not paid a FLAT RATE cpm, you are paid an eCPM. It varies so much per campaign. They got CPC's and they have CPM's from my experience also. Quality Traffic Drives Results, its not just about where it comes from. So to reiterate common sense, if you are not seeing a good eCPM, what i would suggest is use your networks which pay higher. Different networks have different campaigns, and different campaigns have different results with traffic. Some convert better etc.


    What other networks do you get those beautiful CPM's at?
     
    wrekoniz3, Mar 15, 2012 IP
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    #31
    i want to try this ads network but am confuse
     
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    #32
    Very strange and sad story. Did you asked them for detailed explanation? It should be strong reason to just deactivate your account after working with you for a while. Which ad network you using after all? Try fidelity media.
     
    Ant0ni, Jan 13, 2014 IP
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    Bony_m Peon

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    #33
    Hi all, I see that this thread is pretty old and not sure if anyone will follow, but curious to know if anyone is working with Mediashakers today?
    I've heard other stories not reflecting what I've read here.
    thx
     
    Bony_m, Aug 19, 2015 IP