McCain's vetting process for Palin - 15 minute call?

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  1. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #21
    No, but it is a reason to disqualify her as an environmentalist, which you said she was.

    And to be fair, it depends on how important environmental issues are to one, on whether this is a reason to disqualify her or not.

    Turning the coin on its head, Jazz, I'd say her pro-life stand, and that stand alone, is strong enough for far too many people to say she is qualified to be President., because I honestly see little else that screams "Prez!," especially when compared to the likes of Olympia Snowe and other GOP women with vastly more experience and ability.
     
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    #22
    She supports gay rignts and drilling.

    teaching creationism and evolution

    She values humans before polarbears and wolves.

    Family over deadbeats

    what kind of evil person is she.
     
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    #23
    Well I guess she is an evil pro-life person and nothing else matters.

    More qualified than Obama in my book, with much less baggage, but we gotta have our late term abortions so kick her out.
     
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    #24
    Homebiz, again, please do your homework.

    "Gay rights" - please see, where I discuss her support for the constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages:

    Which you know about, since you directly replied with:

    Now, can you please explain how her support of "Measure 2" is an example of her support for gay rights? Unless you were saying is "anti-gay rights?"

    The other stuff, we've dealt with it, in spades, and I'm tired, to be frank. Not examples of her "evil," though there is plenty to suggest - like her accepting millions in pork money, now touting herself as Ms. Anti-earmark USA - she is a hypocrite.

    Now that we agree, I don't think she is evil incarnate, and that she is indeed very likely a great soccer mom, and has a great smile,

    Is "Nice" now the determining factor in vetting qualified candidates?
     
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    #25
    Unless I heard wrong on NPR today. Palin is for shared benefits (tax breaks and insurance among gays). Against gay marriage but for benefits.

    I think that would qualify as gay rights. or is that antigay..stone them in he streets mentality.
     
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    #26
    And this is where I do get annoyed, by both misrepresentations, and poor logic.

    You said she was an environmentalist.

    She isn't. Her record shows this.

    You said this wasn't enough to disqualify her from being V.P.

    I said, depends on the voter, who may find environmentalism to be the one and only criterion by which he or she votes.

    A truism, as I said, as much as many people feel her apparent only strong stance, pro-life, is enough to make her President, should McCain fall while in office.

    If anything I write above is untrue, I will gladly stand to be corrected.
     
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    #27
    I will need to look more into it. Based on her absolute reluctance to do so unless at the point of a (judicial) gun in the past, I would say, not so much "pro gay rights" as much as "kicking and screaming into compliance with the law, because she wants to, uh, keep her job":

    Please review the bold portion above, then let's continue.
     
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    #28
    I just searched NPR and could find nothing but they said it and I will post the gay rights another day.


    Just because she is not an environmental wacko does mot make her "anti environment". She changes her snowmobile oil over a stream and clubs seals, she is evil.
     
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    #29
    So polarbears and wolves should be eradicated ?
     
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    #30
    Hmmm...

    You know, I'm prolife. But I can see the need and am willing to bend, just not all the way. In the 2nd trimester, the fetus looks too much like a baby for me to just discard it. By the time we hit the 3rd trimester, the baby can live with the proper medical care. I would definitely vote agains 3rd term abortions. I just say this to show that there is a difference in my personal beliefs and the laws that I would pass.

    Have we already assumed that Sarah Palin has plans to overturn Roe v Wade or is this her personaly preference?

    Also, on one hand you cast Sarah Palin aside and give preference to politicians with more experience. And then you support Obama. That seems odd. He has the least experience of the four.
     
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    #31
    And on come the pejoratives, in lieu of anything supporting the claim, "Governor Palin - Environmentalist." "Wacko" is anyone .... not holding one's position on specific environmental issues. Thanks, got it.
     
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    #32
    Totally disagree, the NRA needs to be taught what the 2nd amendment is for. The entire 'you don't need that gun for hunting' is simply rubbish. The 2nd is not primarily for 'hunting' and never has been.
     
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    #33
    I don't think she wants them eradicated. Or does she?
     
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    #34
    Carelessness and ignorance kills animals faster than hunters and guns.
     
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    #35
    She has them in her cross hairs ,breath out, squeeze.
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    #36
    Lightless, you have just made two of the dumbest posts that I have ever seen. Who said polar bears and wolves should be eradicated? Maybe there is a wolf problem. I don't know. Did you read somewhere that she wants the polar bears eradicated? If so, please show the source.

    "She wants the Polar Bears off the list so we can drill in ANWR." is what I said.

    Are you saying that Sarah Palin is not kind to her fellow man?
     
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    #37
    Well then maybe I'm not up to speed. Why don't you enlighten me?

    Jeez, GRIM. I thought that was my point, unless you are comming out in support for AK-47s.
     
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    #38
    If there is a continued furor over Palin as a choice for VP stretching out for a week or less after the end of the Republican convention then it will be a problem and a focal point on McCain's choice and her status.

    After all this is the Vice Presidential choice and not the President. The issues should be about the President. They could be about the choices of the President. If that is the case, I'd suggest there will be problems.
     
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    #39
    Well, you open my mind to the possibilities of friendly and constructive discussion with your intro. :D

    The first was merely an attempt to gauge homebiz's stance on animals. Nothing to do with palin.

    The second was a general statement, like a quote.
     
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    #40
    Nope that was not your point. I am in support of ak-47's and so much more. To ban a weapon that is designed to kill people is simply illogical and against the 2nd amendment, the 2nd is not for 'hunting' although it does also protect hunting guns. It's purpose is for guns and other arms that KILL PEOPLE!

    Personally I think the NRA is extremely weak, you appear to think the other way around.
     
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