McCain's Houses..

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Jake-Johnson, Sep 1, 2008.

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    I am starting this thread regarding McCain's houses. Everyone is saying he shouldn't win because he has more than one house. I doubt if anyone's wife was filthy rich, you would have more than one house also. I don't get why any one would care if his wife is rich, this is just a case of Hippies VS The president. People work for money, as she has, thus they deserve the houses.
     
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    Great post on Palin. She has high standards which is what this country needs.


    Grateful dead tree huggers is what they are called in other forums.

    People think its wrong that McCain is not on welfare. Last I looked neither is Barack. People applaud the rich on Forbes top 100 list but persecute McCain. Very odd indeed.
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    The Grateful Dead was one of the highest grossing tour bands for decades. They are hardly an example of poor people - they are all millionaires many times over.

    I think you both miss the point of the discussion about McCain's homes. I think it is pretty pointless myself, but at least I understand it. People are making the point that when John McCain does not even know how many houses he owns, it is hard to believe he has an understanding of what the average family is going through in these tough economic times. I certainly don't care how many homes he has, but his failure to know himself, speaks to the notion the he is simply not on the same wavelength as most Americans who are in a far different financial position that he is.

    Anyway, you two boys have fun.
     
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    Browntwn,

    McCain didn't buy the houses, his wife did. If you were that rich I'm sure you would be in the same position. If I had that many houses and didn't know when, or how many my wife buys, I'd just tell you, I'm rich because I've made something of my life. I will not go out and protect trees over babies, I'm pro-life & i'm sure you think there should be some kind of "Decision" for the mother, but there are many families in the world that cannot have babies of there own. What is your view on the Mexico-America Border Crossing? As soon as they walk in you give them a job right? Give them free money for illegally sneaking into the best country in the world? How about drilling oil in America? Why not? We shouldn't have to pay $4 a gallon, while they are only paying 10 cents for a gallon of gas, while we could right now if we could drill in the United States & or Alaska.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Do you know McCains view?

    One of the main reasons I do not support him...... His extremely weak stance on illegal immigration.
     
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    Yes that is true GRIM yet I still support him because of other reasons. I wish he would be more concerned about Illegal Immigration.
     
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    What other reasons might I ask?
     
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    Oil, Pro-Life, The right to bear arms.

    But if Obama becomes president, I'm sure he'll just open the gates and let all of the Illigals into our country.
     
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    Pro life, regardless of the stance there unless you want him to appoint justices who side not on the constitution but on that of moral beliefs a president truly has no power there.

    2nd amendment is something I hold at the highest level, I highly doubt he's the man for that job either. In the debates he didn't appear to be truly a pure 2nd amendment supporter, at least not in my eyes.

    As far as oil goes, even if we start drilling right now there is no guarantee it will effect prices here at home ever, it would take years and can make us weaker should we come to the point we can not get oil over seas.
    Wow nice, even though you know damn well McCain has a horrible stance on immigration you post crap like this? McCain is just as bad if not worse than Obama on many immigration issues........

    I can not support either of them, but if you're going to bash someone for a certain thing 'immigration' at least do not be a hypocrite and bash the guy you're supporting for the same thing.

    http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez2008.html
     
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    @ Grim

    What would you like seen done to the illegals?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Shipped out of the country and sent back home.

    I do not think illegal behavior should be rewarded, citizens of the US get put away for petty crimes while non citizens break the law every day and get rewarded for it. Doesn't make much sense to me.
     
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    Even the hardworking ones that just want a better life?
     
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    How about those hard working robbers who 'just want a better life'

    If they are illegal YES they should be thrown out!
     
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    Each state has laws on the books that state that "any illegal immigrant that is stopped for any offense get locked up and wait for and sent to immigration for deportation. I only know of 3 police officers in my area that will do this. The laws we have need to be enforced.
     
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    Yes the laws need to be enforced, problem is many communities do not have the funding or infrastructure for the deportation process.

    I don't care if they are 'stopped for an offence' being here against the law last I checked is an offence in itself.
     
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    The jails system in each county in the US provide transportation to the Federal Prison. The Police just need to do their job.
     
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    It's a bit more complicated than that ;)
    The guy I workout with is a jailer and I have talked to him many times about the illegal problem.

    They sit in their forever at times, taking up space in the jail, it can take months for the feds to take over.
     
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    We send a shipment to the State Pen and Federal Weekly.
     
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    I think its an issue in that it and McCain's response to a question about what kind of income qualifies for middle -> up to $5 million/year reflect a person that is way out of touch with economics.

    I like the graph from this data base describing income levels within the US. Its a bit dated, reflecting year 2000. On the other hand there hasn't been dramatic income growth in the US since then....http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_income.html

    Take a look --about 12% of the population had an income level above $100,000 (McCain on middle class -> $5 million/year)
    and slightly more than 2% of the population had an income in excess of $200,000/year. (McCain on middle class -> $5 million/year)

    Go out and buy 2 houses on $100,000/year (houses you live in not rent out).

    Go buy 3 on 200,000/year. (houses you live in; not rent out)

    Nobody buys 7 houses for their own usage without tremendous wealth....and if you can't get even close to a number that might be a break point between middle class and wealth......

    It really questions McCain's sense of the economy and his sense of what effects the vast majority of people within the US. These are folks that make the economy work. Their work creates the great wealth that gets distributed around in various forms of income.

    7 homes is a real lot. I've had 2 at most. It requires a level of maintenance and upkeep way beyond 1. 3 is a real lot (and its real nice for 2 types of vacation homes).

    Above 3 you are way wealthy. He has 7, and he doesn't have a feel how roughly 90% of the population is coping.

    I think it paints a picture of someone whose sense of economics is weak and out of touch as we move forward in deeply difficult economic times.
     
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