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Matt Cutts Says It's Illogical To Penalize Sites For Buying Links?

Discussion in 'Google' started by mvandemar, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. #1
    Recent comment by Matt Cutts on SEOmoz:

    So... according to this statement, Matt has come right out and said that just because a site buys links is no reason to think that it shouldn't rank well.

    I blogged more about it here:

    http://smackdown.blogsblogsblogs.co...e-would-penalize-sites-just-for-buying-links/

    Very interesting, especially considering his post on paid links here:

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/selling-links-that-pass-pagerank/

    He talks more about how links like that just shouldn't be counted, and not how sites should actually be penalized for it (which is what most people have assumed was going on).

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Dec 2, 2007 IP
  2. ssandecki

    ssandecki Peon

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    #2
    The point he was trying to get accross is simple, just because a site is buying links doesn't mean it shouldn't rank well in SERP, just that the site that the link was brought from should have 0 weight SEO wise.
     
    ssandecki, Dec 2, 2007 IP
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  3. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #3
    We are entering the "shock and awe" phase of the google attack.
     
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  4. Wealdie

    Wealdie Guest

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    #4
    It is perhaps logical - they are saying we will penalise the site selling the links but not the site buying them:

    So the buyer has wasted his money - because he has not gained a benefit

    And the seller has gained - a penalty.

    It is a clever pincer movement designed to slowly suffocate the links market over time IMO - by removing the incentive to both buy and sell
     
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  5. busman3000

    busman3000 Peon

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    #5
    clever, very clever...
     
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    vlad230 Active Member

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    Agreed...so the webmaster who sells is going to be hanged, not the one who buys :D
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #7

    And it is equally illogical to assume that a site that has paid links should not rank well as a result...
     
    Mia, Dec 2, 2007 IP
  8. rehash

    rehash Well-Known Member

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    #8
    this means google's algo relies too much on backlinks, so they now use the "fear" tactic to prevent this
     
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  9. ssandecki

    ssandecki Peon

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    The buyer is getting hanged too, the investment they made is gone, they no longer recieve seo weight or pagerank for where they bought the text link :)
     
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  10. DLGx

    DLGx Active Member

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    #10
    If they penalized link buyers it would be possible for webmasters who compete against eachother to get their competitors penalized by buying a lot of cheap crap links for them.
     
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  11. RobertD

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    well, at least not from Google, not necessarily true for all search engines.
     
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    #12
    If Google is penalizing the seller the effects also hurt the buyer ;)
     
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  13. The Stealthy One

    The Stealthy One Well-Known Member Premium Member Affiliate Manager

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    #13
    I am still not even sure as to why you would penalize link sellers. Who cares? If they have a high PR, let them use it for what they want. :)
     
    The Stealthy One, Dec 2, 2007 IP
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    #14
    hung well by google.
    our blog network of 350 blogs was selling links, all blogs were pr3/4 and google took all pr and de-indexed all 350 blogs for selling links.

    our 350 blogs are still making $300 a month on adsense lol TY Google ;)

    smart buyers know that yahoo supplies more search results than google does, yahoo supplies other major search engines with the results, so buying links on our network today, with no pr, is still popular as yahoo and msn still give back links and your page still gets the traffic
     
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    qwestcommunications Peon

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    #15
    It makes sense because these days there is so much buying and selling going on in this regard that it would be impossible to say whether someone bought a link or not. How do you distinguish (unless its blatantly obvious) whether a site got a link naturally or bought it.

    I guess, in the case of TLA and other similar sites, you would know because it would be trackable.
     
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  16. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #16
    You are amazing!!! posting old news we all knew already....
    :D

    Besides anyone with a scintilla of intelligence knows Matt C is a google puppet and lies purposefully to keep all the wanna be webmasters so confused they'll never know whats the truth....

    anyway great job relaying really old news......:rolleyes:
     
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  17. live-cms_com

    live-cms_com Well-Known Member

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    #17
    They are using it to allow people to purchase search engine rankings. Google wants to display relevant results, not results which pay for their links.

    That is a perfectly logical reason to penalize link sellers (unless they add nofollow).
     
    live-cms_com, Dec 2, 2007 IP
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    live-cms_com Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Google has the highest search engine market share. Yahoo has more traffic in total, but not to the search engine section of their website. Google gets far more searches than Yahoo does.
     
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    n-james Well-Known Member

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    #19
    Paid Links = Better search results ;)

    Google wants to show relevant results to its users not webmasters trying to SEO terms such as "money" "business" etc for sites not even related to pwn the search engine traffic.
     
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    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #20
    Youre very bright but do not fall for BS put out by Google..

    Check the PR of this hugh link seller.......

    http://www.text-link-ads.com/

    PR 7

    Yeah there's a penalty for selling links..

    ..it's called


    PROFIT!!!!!!

    F Google.. they lie worse than pinocchio

     
    Sem-Advance, Dec 2, 2007 IP