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Matt Cutts and the paid links

Discussion in 'Google' started by pixads, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #541
    Translation:

    How do I do X?

    Don't give me the correct answer because I don't want to hear that. Give me an answer I want to hear - one that is easier and faster, avoids any real hard work, and will help me spam my way to page 1.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #542
    I'd love to tell you about industry standards...but sadly, I've NO CLUE how to find them. I tried Matt's blog, but that's no good. I then took my search to here at Digital point, and again, all the members here are confused. If you wish to know about industry standards, you'll need to read through Minstrels posts. He's the expert...I'm just a confused webmaster that can't tell the difference between discount & devalue.

    ________________________

    Actually, The post you quoted was me referring to Minstrel mentioning that the posters on Matt's blog were not indicative of industry standards and that I'd need to find a better source (and that the dictionary and Digital point were no good either).

    Though, to answer your question without using "valuable content" I'd say there may be no real answer...if you don't have valuable content, why would people want to link to you?
     
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  3. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #543
    "There is none so blind as he who will not see." ~ source unknown
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #544
    Once again, unable to back up your claims with a valid source :rolleyes: :p
     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #546
    It seems I'm not the only one to miss sarcasm...and I even added in emoticons.
     
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  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #547
    Touche. :eek:
     
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    cormac Peon

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    #548
    haha come one folks you are having a good discussion here, stay on track. ;)


    Of course they listen and you can bet there are number of different places they specifically chime in on i.e. Google groups, Matts blogs, WMW and even in here. I would be sure they are actually watching this thread but just maybe the ignore the negativity spoken about Google as whole, if you know what I mean?
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #549
    Tell me, If they make their Algo to judge the relevance of a certain backlink, The Quality of the linked site, Quality of the linking site (in the terms of content, real content not just freaking MFA), Relevance of both sites over the matter of Anchored text. then ranking them accordingly, regardless of Whether a link is paid or not. How wouldnt it make the SERP better?? But yes, this would get rid of Millions of MFA sites sitting on high SERP. but then it would hurt Google too. As these Spamy, MFA sites are one of the strong source of Google's Income. So Google will not do something as simple as that.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #550
    And you know this how? Care to name just one of these Fortune 500 companies who are buying links? :rolleyes:
     
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  11. amitpatel_3001

    amitpatel_3001 Results Follow Patience

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    #551
    I can send you 100 articles content can you generate me 100*1000 = 100,000 backlinks automatically?
    Dont worry you will be paid for that :rolleyes:

    Which of these - http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/full_list/index.html companies have paid for buying crap backlinks?

    You work for a MNC right? Does your company naukri.com or 99acres.com always rely on buying SE friendly backlinks with the right anchor text and you never get natural backlinks?
    Are all these backlinks purchased by your company?
     
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    egdcltd Peon

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    #552
    Colgate-Palmolive (Rank 200 in Fortune 500)
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    And the evidence?
     
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    egdcltd Peon

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    egdcltd Peon

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    #556
    Colgate have retained iCrossing to purchase link advertising on their behalf. It would appear from that page that other companies have retained iCrossing for the same purpose.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #557
    http://www.icrossing.com/our_work/

    Where do you see evidence of link buying there?
     
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    #558
    There is a lot of difference between adwords, advt via Press release websites and advertising via paid links in your directory/websites.
    Where is it written that they(fortune 500 companies) purchased text links as this topic is related to buying paid links and not regarding general advertising/promotions of websites.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #559
    Exactly. No one, not Google or Matt Cutts or anyone else, is trying to say that advertising is a bad thing. What Cutts is trying to do as part of his job at Google is to ensure that advertising doesn't yield artifical PageRank.

    That's what this thread has been about from the beginning.
     
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    #560
    I know for a fact that Colgate Palmolive have purchased link advertising. As has this site http://www.nationwide.com
     
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