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Markethealth.com, another scam?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by wokaka, May 7, 2008.

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    Everybody knows markethealth previously known as JoeBucks. I have joined MarketHealth but I never really promote their products until today. Then I found some negative posts about MarketHealth (and JoeBucks) by individuals recently, just try to search in Google or other search engines "MarketHealth scam" and similar keywords, you will find some negative comments and posts. So is there anyone using markethealth here and has been paid fully by them? I heard markethealth manipulates their tracking software. Every time I asked markethealth representatives, they always answer but when I asked them about this, they suddenly disappear.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    They ignore questions? That definitely seems shady.
     
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    I have always been paid promptly by MarketHealth... I'm not saying they are white than white... I don't know. But in all time I have been paid in full and correctly. Never any prob for me

    McrTech
     
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    What do you mean all time? Since they were JoeBucks? But do you really make good amount of money with MarketHealth? Because according to these skeptic people, MarketHealth/JoeBucks manipulated the tracking code and once these guys proved it on JoeBucks forum, the admins deleted their threads. Well I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
     
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    wokaka Peon

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    Now I believe that markethealth.com is just another shady company. They haven't answered my question yet until today....be careful, people...
     
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    redz Well-Known Member

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    well you never know, mabe they have too many publishers to deal with and not enough employees? Give them atleast 24 hours :D.
     
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    wokaka Peon

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    Well, i never seen so many negative reviews about legit affiliate programs beside about markethealth.com. 24 hours? It's already more than 72 hours. I still need more opinion here but now it seems these scam stories are true.
     
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    BlohG Banned

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    i recently signed up with them, in a fix after reading your post
     
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    5starAffiliates Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    MarketHealth is one of my clients and I only work with high integrity programs.
    Lots of guys here at DP have worked with them since way back in the JoeBucks days and have gotten paid.

    Gary has explained the tracking problem many times that came up with a couple affiliates. It had to do with cookies and the affiliate just had to clear their cookies and then they would see their affiliate ID correctly. I can't really explain it technically, but he's explained it several times to people on the forums. I can try to get more clarification if anyone needs it. But hopefully some of the many happy MarketHealth affiliates will weigh in.
     
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    They are one of the few companies that ALWAYS pays on time...for a few years now. I can't speak to the future, but so far, so good.
     
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    wokaka Peon

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    That's not what I heard. I heard Gary and other managers deleted all the threads that questioning JoeBucks' tracking code. And if they are really legit, why they don't answer my questions? it's already hanging in the air since a few days ago. Go here and click the two external links there:
    http://www.businesspeanuts.com/bum-marketing/problems-arising-with-markethealthcom-what-should-i-do

    And yes, i need clarification. I haven't made any real amount of money with markethealth and i won't really promote any of their products until they prove that they are a legit company.

     
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    My AM has always been prompt with me too.
     
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    wokaka Peon

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    Sorry but can you explain why those people are arguing about your affiliate program, Gary? You can click the external link that I gave earlier on this thread. And just like s0sunz1m, i think it would be best if you have your own forum so we can read what people thought. The problem is not about payment but they are accusing you of stealing their affiliate commission by manipulating the tracking code.
     
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    just curious.....do they allow incentivized marketing? can't find specifics anywhere
    thanks for any info
     
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    the sky is falling, the sky is falling... lol

    Okay, here's the drop. When affiliate's have bad days with sales...they ALWAYS have the ones that pop out the woodwork saying it's some great conspiracy...

    It's not...it's cookies and they are the bain of our affiliate lives, but there's nothin we can do about it.. If you make 5 sales a day... and potentially "lose" 5 due to a cookies problem, then you can either:

    a) Bitch and moan about it all day long

    or

    b) Iincrease your efforts and traffic generation methods so that the potential "5 lost sales" are not even a worry and you can move along without fear of some great tracking code manipulation conspiracy..

    Look guys.... here's the thing. I have my income spread over a good 10 or 15 different programs at time.. ClickBank, eBay, Amazon, MarketHealth, CJ, ShareASale..etc etc and at times, they all have a little drops in sales.. Why??... because affiliate marketing is not 100% trackable by cookies.. we will never be able to do anything about it and neither will the merchants. That's the way the cookie crumbles...

    But what I can tell you is this. Although MarketHealth doesn't convert very well on it's own pages, you can pre-sell individual products on your own pages for good returns and they pay promptly via PayPal...

    They ain't too bad, and you would do yourself a bigger favour if you went to EzineArticles and wrote a few articles for backlinks to any of your sites, instead of playing out this soap opera here..

    I wish you the greatest success and prosperity in all you do

    McrTech
     
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    Thanks for the offer Gary... that's ok... I said MH isn't the best on it's own pages, but that doesn't mean it don't convert, it just takes a little more effort on my part... I like a challenge.lol ;)

    Thanks anyhow

    Kindest Regards

    Mcr
     
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    Or ís Market Health a scam?

    Today I joined them for my dutch site, a Weight loss and health site.

    We placed a 'test order' to test de affiliatelink and the link shows an ID that's not ours?

    So I removed all of it.

    Don't pay attention to my English, I'm from Holland:)
     
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    I've made a couple of commissions with them so far. In my testing the affiliate tracking seems correct.
     
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    Djedda,

    It also wasn't the ID from Markethealth you showed us. MH works with a 30 day cookie and first cookie counts (gets the sale). You had a cookie from someone else on your pc and that's the ID you saw. Like marc told you in the email he send you today.

    People who never have been to a MH hoodia site, last 30 days, and click on your link on your site will see your ID.


    Mike
     
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