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Mark my words, John McCain is going to destroy the Republican Party

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #81
    Just listening to Insane McCains speech.

    Man this crazy bastard is off the scale. :confused: :confused: :confused:

    It's all terror, terror, al-CIAda, terror, fear, look under your bed, terror, al-CIAda, radicals, terror, be frightened etc. etc. etc. etc.

    His wife next to him has so much makeup on she looks like a fooking mannequin.
     
    AGS, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #82
    Richard/Hillary -- Power and information hoarders. Untrusting. Secretive. Dishonest.

    Jimmy/Barack -- Naive. Well meaning. Dangerously lost in the real world.

    Lyndon/John -- Powerful. Domineering. Rude. Manipulative. Personable.

    I wonder if any of these folks have published Myers-Briggs results?
     
    Will.Spencer, Feb 20, 2008 IP
  3. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Nixon/ power and information hoarder. untrusting. secretive. dishonest Dick Cheney.....bingo. It must be no coincidence they are both named Dick.

    hm....long ago when I was in college I had some class that was sort of an experimental idea by this big name prof who wrote a book on psycho/social political mumbo jumbo stuff.

    In the same building at the same hour there was some guy teaching a class wherein he was occaisionally showing porn relative to some psychology class.

    While I was listening to the psycho social mumbo jumbo...every so often there would be peals of outrageous laughter from the other class.

    I took the wrong course.

    Per Myers Briggs there is no right or wrong. My ex wife was heavily skewed toward P - ness. That test was right on. ;)
     
    earlpearl, Feb 21, 2008 IP
  4. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #84
    McCain is in real trouble, ironically for violating his own law, McCain-Feingold.

    http://action.firedoglake.com/page/petition/mccainfec

    The liberal bloggers are all over this, and they aren't going to let it go easily.

    Here is the whole complaint,

    http://firedoglake.com/files/1/files//2008/03/hamsher-complaint-with-fec-vs-mccain-1.pdf

    Basically, McCain applied for Federal Matching Funds, used his certification of eligibility for the funds as collateral (a guarantee) in order to get financing from a bank. Now that McCain has taken the clear lead, he doesn't need matching funds (and all of the rules and restrictions that places on a candidate) but he can't withdraw because the FEC board cannot convene at this time to certify his withdrawal.

    So he's still signed up, and has violated the limit.

    McCain is kinda famous for engineering McCain-Feingold (which suppresses free political speech), but utilizing every single loophole for his campaign. Including, stashing away his advisers and campaign staff in 527 groups, so that they are fully employed between election cycles.

    I can't stand this guy, my friends.
     
    guerilla, Mar 30, 2008 IP
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    webwork Banned

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    #85
    This ass will never get elected.
     
    webwork, Mar 30, 2008 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #86
    This is a non-issue, and an old one at that -- dating back to Dick Gephardt's campaign in the last election.

    Of course the "liberal bloggers" blather about it -- they don't understand how the system works and they have nothing real to talk about.

    I'm no fan of John McCain, but you'll get no traction with silliness like this.

    If you want to beat John McCain -- stick to the issues.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 31, 2008 IP
  7. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #87
    Actually, they do know how the system works. The DNC has launched an official challenge.
     
    guerilla, Mar 31, 2008 IP
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    #88
    Looks like McCain is uniting the republican party more so then what Hilliary and Obama are doing to the democratic party.
     
    soniqhost.com, Mar 31, 2008 IP
  9. Will.Spencer

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    #89
    Of course they did, duh. That's their job. They are just trying to waste the time and resources of the McCain campaign.

    As a bonus, they may be able to deflect some heat from their own current fiasco's.

    That's how to competitive political system works.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 1, 2008 IP
  10. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #90
    How lame is this. Stealing recipes.

    McCain "Family Recipes" Lifted from the Food Network
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-weiner/mccain-family-recipes-lif_b_96666.html

    apparently the military candidate with foreign policy experience isn't aware that Petraeus is not the Commander-in-Chief. The President is...

    McCain reveals confusion over Petraeus role
    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/military_mccain_petraeus_041408w/

    Thus far, McCain doesn't know the chain of command, he doesn't know that Al Queda is not sponsored by Iran and his wife can't make cookies.

    Is anyone really voting for Songbird McCain?
     
    guerilla, Apr 15, 2008 IP
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    #91
    He's a bloody lunatic. :eek:

    He is so obsessed with "war war war" that his mind is completely muddled and he gets very confused with anything to do with the situation in Iraq/Iran.

    McCain reminds me of a teenager playing wargames on his computer, he will carry on as if he can just pop back and reload a saved game if it all goes to s**t.

    He is going to be a disaster if he gets in, even worse than Hillary or Obama. These are very worrying times for the world.
     
    AGS, Apr 15, 2008 IP
  12. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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  13. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #93
    McCain is doing remarkably well in polls against either Obama or Hillary. Its amazing considering how weak his candidacy was earlier in the presidential primary period, when he had depleted his resources.

    Its astounding how strong he is considering a general leaning to the middle and left of the public at large, contingent on antipathy toward the Bush administration, the war, and currently the economy.

    A party works to win and gain control of the legislature. It is not the domain of a narrow political view within the party.

    Don't like McCain within the party.....leave.

    His victory in the primary period essentially drove Michael Bloomberg from presenting an independant middle perspective.

    He is attracting middle of the pack people to his campaign, the large unaffiliated independant perspective.

    I agree with some of his perspectives and disagree with other. Regardless he won a strong majority of delegates within the primary period, withstood weakness, and is gaining strength from those that opposed him.

    Of course if you so detest him, and so detest the perspective of a majority of delegates to the Republican party you should probably leave.
     
    earlpearl, Apr 16, 2008 IP
  14. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    By your logic, the Founders should have abandoned America to the British, because they were a tiny but vocal minority.

    Strange logic Earl, but then you seem to favor the status quo, and the tyranny rights of the majority over the minority or individual.

    McCain is a bumbling idiot. He gets the anti-war vote from people who aren't even aware he wants to attack Iran and Pakistan.

    That he has come this far, that Clinton and Obama have come this far, says far more about the awareness and rationality of the average voter, than it does about the candidates running along side them.

    Btw, parties don't exist to gain power. They exist to represent the collective values of their membership. Many of the people voting (R) are not party members. In 2 year, they might vote (D). They aren't charting the future of the party, they are voting on a particular candidate now.

    I'll leave you with this little nugget from a man who has coined the phrase, "Party of Reagan".

     
    guerilla, Apr 16, 2008 IP
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    #95
    I love how Ron Paul supporters are the most consipracy filled group of people I have ever met. It is ridiculous to no end.
     
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  16. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #96
    I find McCain's current position in the polls astounding, considering how poorly the Republican party looked with regard to any candidate at the start of the primary process, and especially how badly he did during the earlier period.

    Once having gained control of the nomination it has been interesting to see how the most conservative of voices were largely negative to McCain. To a certain degree some of those voices have been muted.

    If I were in charge of the party, which I'm not, and if the party had chosen McCain as its candidate, the last thing I'd want within the current, and near term voices of the party are people calling him an idiot.

    So much for chances of winning an election.

    Over 2.5 decades he has shown an amazing level of maverick perspective. In certain regards I believe he has shown personal growth.....and more importantly a willingness to express opinions that exhibit that growth and stand in the face of pure politics. Kudo's we need more politicians of that ilk.

    I am not happy with his perspective on Iraq.....but I believe he will treat it differently than Bush. Who knows what will happen in the long term.

    He seems to have zero sense of the economy.....but on that basis I'd rather have a guy who has shown a willingness to listen and learn and experience things rather than the current president.

    I probably won't vote for him.....but IMHO he is the most mature and reasonable of all the candidates who ran in the Republican primaries.

    Again I give him kudo's.
     
    earlpearl, Apr 16, 2008 IP
  17. Will.Spencer

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    #97
    Here's what Thomas Sowell said in the Orange County Register:

    Sen. John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain.​

    If the Demoncrats gave us a better candidate, there would be a lot of Republicans crossing party lines. Instead, they give us a wet behind the ears leftist and one of Bill Clinton's ex-girlfriends.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 16, 2008 IP
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    #98
    Will, how about Bob Barr?
     
    guerilla, Apr 16, 2008 IP
  19. Will.Spencer

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    #99
    Bob Barr?

    I know he's switched sides on the war on drugs, but...

    Isn't he anti-abortion? Isn't he anti-gay? Doesn't he oppose the separation of church and state?

    He's currently against supporting liberty globally, so he's not going to get my support domestically.

    Which is all irrelevant, because he has less chance of winning the Presidency than Borat. Americans aren't likely to vote for a guy who misses his own child support payments.
     
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    #100
    I agree with the surprise of how well McCain is doing in the polls. BUT he has the advantage of being his party's nominee (presumptively anyway) while Obama does not. I think when the Dem. nom. battle is finally over, he will see a real nice bump in the polls.

    I really think many of the independents that are currently supporting McCain aren't really paying attention and think they are voting for the "maverick" McCain of 2000, this is a different guy. I don't see how a guy that excites almost no one and who bases his entire candidacy on an extremely unpopular war can win the general election.

    Plus the media is being ridiculously soft on him. They have to take off the gloves at some point, right?
     
    Zibblu, Apr 16, 2008 IP