Marine's graphic interview describes killing of prisoners in Iraq

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    Sgt. Jermaine Nelson, in a tape-recorded interview, says he and a fellow sergeant were ordered to kill the prisoners during a sweep through a Fallouja neighborhood in 2004.

    Source: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=25581
     
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    Wow, talk about a bad decision.
     
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    #4
    The day America turned into just another band of savages.
     
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    I want more info. Who were these prisoners? If they were captured combatants I would say they understood the risk of death when they went to fight. If I captured a man with an RPG, I would be very reluctant to turn him loose. War is hell, no use trying to pretend it isn't. But like I said, I would need more info to decide if I think they deserve to be tried for murder and manslaughter.
     
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    Are you guys serious?
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    It is a War Crime to kill captured combatants or non-combatants.
     
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    #8
    It is a crime and that is why they are on trial.

    How do you feel about Samir Kuntar who killed non-combatants - isn't it disgusting that he is being celebrated instead of being tried by his own country?

    Isn't it refreshing to see a government holding its own people accountable. I can't recall any of America's enemies or Israel's enemies who do anything to police their own soldiers who violate the law.
     
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    #9
    When was the last time Israel policed their own soldiers? Please source me something if possible.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Try google, it is a great source for research. I am sure you will find whatever it is you are looking for.
     
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    You win. 6 months for manslaughter is harsh.
     
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    You might want to try again since Israel has often held its own soldiers to account, but the fact that you have already conceded that they do is a nice first step.

    Now, please tell us how many times the Palestinians, if ever, have held their own people to account for crimes committed against Israel? Or are you just a hypocrite you thinks you can just talk shit about one side while ignoring the same thing from the other. I think you are.
     
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    Once they can figure out how to punish bits of body parts I'm pretty sure they'll be onto something MAJOR.

    However, Israel wants to start punishing the families of supposed terrorists.

    Clearly aiming in the wrong direction, but it's a pretty good start.
     
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    Right because no Palestinian has ever survived after committing a crime.

    You really can do better than that can't you?
     
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    #15
    Could you do Google for once. I'm tired of doing all the work here.

    Maybe we could consult Human Rights Watch about this and see who the worst is - because both sides clearly suck.
     
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    Yes, I seriously want more information. No, I cannot guarantee I would not shoot an unarmed man in the face if that unarmed man had for instance tried to blow me up with an RPG or IED and my only other option was to turn him loose so he could re-arm and try again. Luckily I am not a soldier, so neither of us have to worry about it, other people have to make those kinds of decisions while we get to discuss if they are murders or not.
     
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    The only reason I will slightly agree with you here is the fact that the military leaders might be more to blame than anyone.

    Why 'if it was not' was nothing set into place for captured enemies? Squads to come behind the driving force to take prisoners into custody while allowing the soldiers who originally disarmed them to continue on with their mission.

    War is hell and shit is going to happen, we however can't very well bitch and moan when our own men are killed in custody if we ourselves do the same thing. There is a reason rules are put into place, even if we are the only ones who follow them.
     
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    I agree, and I am not saying they are not guilty, I just want more info. I was thinking about this earlier too, wouldn't a good commanding officer have taken this aweful task upon themselves instead of forcing his subordinates to participate? He sounds like a piece of shit for sure so far. If my RPG scenario is right, and I have no way of knowing yet, our leaders are at least guilty of over-extending our military to a point where they would make such a decision. Hopefully the justice system will work it all out.
     
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    I agree what more info is needed. War indeed is rough.
     
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