Marine admits to killing 18 unarmed Iraqis, says he would do it again

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  1. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #21
    In the mean time, how about some good news out of Iraq?? Looks like your favorite biased network stooped to a new low and wrote a story about how the use of deadly roadside bombing has plunged....oh wait, is using a roadside bomb that kills innocent people as they drive by really moral? Can that be compared to someone who has yet to be proven guilty that they shot 5 innocent iraqi's??? hmm...is there a double standard???

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/21/iraq/main2591791.shtml
     
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  2. Josh Inno

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    #22
    #1. There is a difference between a terrorist and a terrorist supporter. People seem to be confusing an accusation of being one with the accusation of being the other.

    #2. I am not familiar with all of the facts in this case, and so refuse to judge. A person can be a threat to you or threaten you with their back turned, but I don't know if this Marine's belief that there was a threat was justified.

    #3. I don't believe that the military should be acting as police unless Martial law has been declared. They aren't trained for it. They are trained for peace keeping under martial law, which has been instituted in Afghanistan (where things are -slowly- getting better), but not in Iraq.

    Under Military law, all citizens are drafted. If you disobey an order, you can be shot. Military law was invoked in St Louis following the hurricane disaster, and several people running from the police, after being ordered to stop, were shot. In the back. Legally.

    A person who is running can still be a threat. It all depends on what they are running too.
     
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  3. commandos

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    #23

    can u plz tell me where i ever said that the act made by those terrorists were acceptable ?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Thanks for proving my point....you don't question whether a roadside bombing is ethical, but you question the actions of a US Military person who shoots 5 iraqi's for making hostile threats...like I said, it goes to show that you have a double standard....I really appreciate you doing this!!!
     
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    commandos Notable Member

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    #25
    Because Terrorists are not trained to have morals , they just kill with cold blod .

    A soldier should act in a proper manner , his first job is to help civilians not kill them .

    We all know that the bombers are terrorist what would be my point of saying it again ? it will not give any value .

    see my point ?
     
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  6. Josh Inno

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    #26
    No. The first duty of a soldier is not to help civilians.

    I think you (like many) are confusing soldiers with police.

    And even then, while many police view their duties to include protection of other civilians, at least in the US the courts have ruled that they have no such legal obligation.
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Commando just got OWNED!!! Again...


    Does anyone else find it ironic that his username is commando??:D
     
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  8. commandos

    commandos Notable Member

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    #28
    keep playing as a kid ...

    The war was done when iraqis army surrendered , i dont know about us army (i know they dont care about civilians) but for us , canadian army its an obligation for us to prevent civilians looses and try to help them as much as we can .
     
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    #29
    Putting aside the fact that the ratio of civilian deaths from the US Army is probably the lowest, besides Afghanistan, maybe ever.

    And putting aside the fact that they many times take risks because of civilians (to protect them), you are painting a broad brush that they don't care about civilians, especially considering you're wrong.

    Which is done. And when something horrible like this happens look what has happened? They are being tried for murder, I don't see the problem.
     
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    #30
    The problem is for the families of those who died , i'm sure from those 5 who died , some of them have children and they will grow up having in mind that US killed there parents ...
     
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  11. d16man

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    #31
    If they did make a move on the US Soldiers, that also means they were hiding behind women and children....will you then condemn this activity? Or will you keep supporting them while damning our US Soldiers before they have even had a trial??
     
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    #32
    Don't worry , i will always condemn bombing because its against my morals and conscience .

    And also i dont damn all us soldiers , i have many friends in the us army and they do share the same point of view , i just damn those A** Who give bad look to the Uniform .
     
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  13. Josh Inno

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    #33
    I'm sure that many women agree that men in uniform should have cute rears.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #34

    thats great, but you didn't answer my question?
     
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    #35
    So Commando is a Canadian? I guess that would explain his confused state of mind. What do they teach kids in the Canadian schools anyways?

    I suppose their map of the U.S. still shows the Louisiana territory...

    (BTW, I am not down on Canada, but the canadians that have been in DP have not given Canada anything to look up to. ehh...)
     
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  16. d16man

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    #36
    are you surprised? after all, look at gworld...
     
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  17. Josh Inno

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    #37
    I used to have a friend from Canada. Crazy Canuck was in love with Poutine.
     
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    #38
    If you disobey an order you can be shot? You can be shot legally, in the back, just for running AWAY from the Police? Wow - that's bad. Here's me thinking the US was a civilised country.

     
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    #39
    At least we are not hated by the WORLD & we dont kill for OIL
     
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