Many Internal Links Dilute Outgoing Links and PR Loss?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by websiteideas, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. #1
    Let's say you have many internal links on every page of your website. Does that mean that any outgoing links will only result in a small Google PR loss?
     
    websiteideas, Mar 10, 2006 IP
  2. weblord

    weblord Well-Known Member

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    probably yes, one of the reasons why domains use/implement cloaking techniques to preserve their pr.
     
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  3. websiteideas

    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure I understand cloaking entirely, but how does this relate to the topic?
     
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    Lots of internal linking between pages is good for your site. Internal linking is a very important factor in improving your SERPS.
     
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    Nerz Well-Known Member

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    I agree, internal linking also makes the work of spiders all that much easier as they can bounce from one page to the next..more indexed pages in the SERP's means more hits for your site long term.
     
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    Isn't internal link called cross referencing which is good...?
     
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  7. websiteideas

    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    Can internal linking be overdone? Let's say you have over 10,000 pages of content. How many links is too many? 50? 100? 150?
     
    websiteideas, Mar 13, 2006 IP
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    SEOinAZ Active Member

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    The easier it is for search engines to find the pages in your site the better. This can usually be accomplished by creating a sitemap with a link to every page. Pages linked from the home page get more importance from search engines and on one of my sites I have found that the links in the navigation menu (they're linked to from every page) have the same PR as the home page as well as fantastic rankings.
     
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  9. websiteideas

    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    Let's say you have 20 links in your left hand navigation menu. Can you repeat these links in your footer to boost the PR of your internal links times two?
     
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  10. Nerz

    Nerz Well-Known Member

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    Do those links contain keywords? and is it obvious that they are keywords...if so thats getting towards keyword stuffing...and thats frowned upon by the big G in particular. Personally id stear clear of that.
     
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  11. Mister Tut

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "PR loss". If page x has a PR of 5, it will have a 5 if it has one outbound link, or one hundred. The only difference is how much PR is conferred to the sites you link to. There is no "loss".
     
    Mister Tut, Mar 17, 2006 IP
  12. websiteideas

    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    Mister_Tut, I beg to differ. If that statement was true everyone would have a PR of 10.
     
    websiteideas, Mar 28, 2006 IP
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    Beg all you like. Your logic is flawed.

    You start with 0 and every site that links to you passes a proportion of it's PR to you, without losing any of it's own.

    If enough sites link to you, your PR incrementally rises. How does that mean that everyone would have PR 10?
     
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    websiteideas and mister_tut:

    I'd say that the discussion is not about direct PR leak (you lose PR if you link to others), but about rather about "indirect leak", that is, if you link out from a page with few internal links, you "vote" for others, while you could instead, thru internal linking, give part of that "vote" to one of your pages. But the question here is if the formula that we know for PR is right, or rather how much google has modified it since thy wrote their Page/Brin academic paper on PageRank. Hope you understand what I mean, if smth is unclear just shout.
     
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  15. websiteideas

    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    If I have a PR 5 webpage with no outgoing links and I then place 100 affiliate links on that page, it will remain a PR5 assuming nothing else has changed. Is that what you're saying?
     
    websiteideas, Apr 6, 2006 IP
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    Yup.

    If you link from that page(page A) to one other page (page B), all of page A's voting power goes to increase page B's PR.
    If you link out to 100 pages, page A is still PR5, but each of those other sites will get 1% of page A's votes.

    The way you envisioned it earlier, all pages with no outgoing links would have PR10 and all with outgoing links would have PR0. That is a logical contradiction and therefore impossible.
     
    Mister Tut, Apr 6, 2006 IP