Man renounces Christianity after....

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  1. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #61
    Fact is both Jesus and Mohammad can't even hit a curve ball. :D
     
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    #62
    in Islam world also some Sufis claimed the same.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansur_Al-Hallaj

     
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  3. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #63
    If he was God then he should have saved himself from being killed, same goes for the Christian God.

    Sufism by the way is another occult.

    :)
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #64
    less know about that guy and his mentality but seems you are right.
    out of curious, what do you think about his dead? is he deserved dead penalty when he didn't harm anybody?
     
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  5. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #65
    I don't know if this story is even true.

    :)
     
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    #66
    yeah right! it's hard to look fair inside! so no responce!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #67
    Actually he is right since there is no historical proof that this person Jesus existed.
     
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    #68
    just asked his opinion about Hallaj story whether it was true or false story. this question is about: "can kill a person because of his/her belief".

    "some people were hanging a guy, a passer-by asked them why you are killing him.
    Crowd: he claimed is God messenger!
    passer-by: kill him he is a liar, I never send him to you!"
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #69
    My bad, I thought you are asking about Jesus. Sufism is an interesting sect of Islam. There is a discussion that Iranian never become Muslims since Shia religion actually changed the fundamental parts of Islam. Sufism takes it even one step further. Rumi explains the basics of dialectics almost 600 years earlier than German Philosopher Hegel.
     
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    IsraeI Peon

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    #70
    Sufism is not interesting whatsoever, they have mixed the theories of philosophers with Islaam, for more info visit here.
     
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    #71
    It may not be interesting to you but sure is with others.
     
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    #72
    Well whoever is interested, I say, prepare for witchcraft.

    :)
     
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    #73
    You mean more witchcraft than dividing the moon in two parts. :rolleyes:

    Sufi mysticism is much more interesting than the BS in 1500 years old book. ;)
     
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    #74
    To suggest our Prophet (peace be upon him) did witchcraft shows how ignorant you are. In Islaam the sorcerer or witch is an apostate and no longer a Muslim.

    That said, enjoy Sufism:

    [video=youtube;mtT5RfDfeIE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtT5RfDfeIE[/video]

    :D:D:D
     
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    #75
    Then again, aren't they worshiping the same imaginary friend, Allah?
     
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    #76
    What we are trying to highlight here is witchcraft, oh foolish one.

    Everyone claims to worship Allaah, even Christians claim this, the only way to worship Allaah is the way he has legislated it, not in a way invented by man.

    :)
     
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    #77
    You say one thing, I ask another thing. I assume that asking questions isn't a crime in the holy book of Quran?

    Oh and can you show proof that 'everyone' does claim that they worship Allah or even just for them Christians.
     
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    #78
    It's no problem to ask, but the way you ask is not very polite, is it?

    Click Here for more information.

    :)
     
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    #79
    I thought you are that passer-by, both wrong! lol
    yeah, in somehow Shiah stick to our identity. first Shiite dynasty was Buyid dynasty but Esmailian and Safavid are more interesting.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismaili
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty


    Rumi was wise guy I think. I guess German and Iranian has more common things in philosophy

    they worship same divine but in different way.
     
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    #80
    I say that the fact that Muslims claim that he divided the moon in 2 parts is the proof of witchcraft. If you really believe he did it, then my explanation is as reasonable as yours.
     
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