What do yall think of this argument? Think he is a coward? or what? http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs19056
I would say that the dude is sensible. After all, who wants to go out into the arsehole end of nowhere where there's a chance he won't come back.
Im not taking either side on this, but just throwing out something What about his oath? The Promise he made? His whole defence is useless if he broke his promise means he isnt to be trusted in the first place so how would he win?
Easymarketer , he is fighting an illegal war. This is an unconstitutional war. We have been deceived . They are putting their lives on the line,and it better be for a good reason not for an illegal war.
I dont believe in the war myself but im looking at the prosecutions point this guy took an oath and he broke it why is he trustworthy? Basically if he lied when he took the oath what credibility does he have? Its like getting a huge loan and not paying it, except he cant take bankruptcy he can lose all of his credibility.
While I salute people taking a stand and willing to face the consequences, unlike civilian life the armed forces are not a democracy, you do what you are told and you fight where they tell you to fight. Many of the man and woman stationed in Iraq would rather spend their time elsewhere for many different reasons, but while serving in the armed forces it's not their decision.
Sorry dudes but this flies in the face of what im talking about. Our soldiers arent pieces of meat to be sent to their death if its an illegal war. and if you people really care for our soldiers you would also want them home today
When they enlisted they should have known the circumstances tho. So he basically lied. Yeah i respect the fact he doesnt want to die, but that isnt his choice he enlisted and knew it could have happened. I dont want to die either no one does, but if i gave my word and took an oath i would go. That is why i just wont go into the military.
Regardless of the war being illegal or not, as an individual in the army, a person can't be judge and jury and decide to do what he or she wants and defy orders accordingly. The legality of the war is not for him to decide.
Wrong hex, then u would say that the nazi soldiers of ww2 were justdoing their duty? We cant judge their actions. Here are some awesome posts under the article "Glassart, By volunteering to participate in a war you did not believe in, you shirked your duty to your country and the ideals of of the Consitution by empowering the government's actions. You basically surrendered your conscience and morals to the government. Mr. Watada joined the military to perform what he felt was his duty and obligation and upon discovering that the Executive Branch had lied to Congress and the American people (which included him) decided that he could no longer support this war. A war that he considered to be illegal. This determination of illegality occurred AFTER he had been enticed by fraudulent statements of the Executive Branch. No one in this country can be held to any contract entered into by reason of fraud. That is our law, and that is what Mr. Watada is saying occurred in this case. You cannot say that he is a traitor or a deserter. He is doing what he believes fulfills his oath to "uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America" and he has not deserted from the Army. Mr. Watada is an American of the highest caliber, one who is willing to sacrifice in the name of America and what it means. I, for one, wish that I could say the same about our current Administration and the past Congress. Posted by r_vanwinkle99 on Tue, Jan 2, 2007 8:04 PM ET" Commenters #1 and #2: This is precisely what would make you "good Germans" in WWII. Life is bigger than loyalty to the political regime, even if it drapes itself in the flag of the nation and says "disloyalty to us is disloyalty to the nation, and thus treason." I hope you don't ever dare criticize the conduct of German citizens and soldiers during WWII. That would be hypocrisy. By the way Posted by csedgar73 on Tue, Jan 2, 2007 7:58 PM ET
When our government decides to send us to war they have a duty to do so in the interests of freedom and democracy not to destroy freedom and democracy and what the constitution stands for. At this point the oath becomes null and void
..........Since then I think I, as many, many Americans are realizing, that those justifications were intentionally falsified in order to fit a policy established long before 9/11 of just toppling the Saddam Hussein regime and setting up an American presence in Iraq.... http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs19056 Where is GTech to comment on this?
Gtech is probably consulting his buddies trying to find a way to twist things to make this solder appear to be a traitor. Anyone watch star wars revenge of the sith? I thank god everyday that we dont have a clone army
Ever read the clone republic series by Steven Kent? The system of government is based on Plato's Republic. This calls for a separate class of warriors, which in this case are clones. Its a very different view compared with star wars like clones. Amazon Link to this book - Non affiliate