Mall Shooter Muslim?

Pun intended or not, given the subject of this thread??

 

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5234935

His parents should be locked up. They were delusional about the behavior of their kid and as a result he escalated and ended up killing other people and himself.

 

What did you want he's parents to do? Lock him in a cage?

 

How about get him some professional help?

If the first thing that comes to your mind when dealing with an out of control kid is "lock him in a cage" do the world a favor and never have children.

 

Yep - seems this kid was on the road to ruin from early on.

 

Super Nanny would have whipped him into shape.

 

lol....so would have a paddle to the rear end by his parents...

 

It's none of your business whether I have children or not. My point was after a certain age parents can't control their children. If he didn't want help then no one can force him.

 

He starting hurting people before he was a teenager.

Not being able to control your kid is one thing. Pretending there is nothing wrong is quite another.

That's why they should be locked up. They failed as parents early on and never sought help for their kid. If they couldn't help him after he started hurting little girls then they should have sent him to jail to get help there.

My uncle's kid causes trouble occasionally too. You know what happens? The dad lets the kid go through the legal system and face the punishment. He doesn't pretend his kid never does anything wrong. He recognizes there's a problem and he doesn't really know how to fix it. So he lets the professionals do it.

And like I said, if you thinking locking a kid up in a cage is the only way to help them then don't have kids. There's never an age where you can no longer control your kids. If you know they're committing violent offenses and think you can't do anything about it then call 911 and get the kid arrested so he can get the help he needs.

Parents too often don't love their kids and make excuses for them and try to justify doing nothing like you're doing. That's the type of attitude that ends up getting your kid in serious trouble and may one day grow up to kill people.

And all you had to do was be honest with yourself and make a phone call to get help for you troubled kid.

The parents made excuses for their kid. You make excuses for the parents. Meanwhile people are dead.

 

I think if you control your kids and are good parents from the time they are born, then you don't have a problem....I blame many of the faults of young children on ignorant parents (most of whom are single and shouldn't be having babies anyway)

 

Well said, Kalvin. I absolutely agree. Kids today need help - it's a crazy world. So often, kids seem to be these ancillary things. I don't know - it is a problem, the Columbines in our society; are these kids just not parented? Anyone with any thoughts - why are we seeing this so much? (perhaps subject for another thread).

 

Well recently a 14 year old girl was arrested for bringing a knife to school. She was special ed and always getting picked on. She told her mom who told the school which didn't fix the problem. She had enough and brought the knife. She was again being picked on and the bus driver did nothing and that's when she started fiddling with the knife in her bag. She never pulled it out but another student saw it. Oh, now the school can do something.

And here's the crazy thing, the mom is not defending the actions of her kid. Imagine that. She's holding her kid responsible and now trying to get the school to take responsibility for failing to protect her child.

Some mom told a story where her kid was beat up, told her, she sat in a car and watched at recess and again, her kid was beat up while other students watched. The mom got out of her car, broke it up and only then did the teachers do anything. They didn't even see this adult coming on to the school grounds.

It's not necessarily the parents. Occasionally the kids are perfectly fine. It's the other kids that are the problem but no one will help the real victim. And that's when things start to escelate. Another girl was being threatened with rape and the school did nothing so she brought a knife and hid it along the way she walks so she'd have it if the kids showed up. She had to defend herself because no one else would. The school just told her to take the bus. Later her friend was raped, got pregnant, had an abortion and moved away.

The problem is that people would rather make excuses than take an honest look around to put responsibility where it needs to be put.

 

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=900702

Apparently he was a loner with no ambitions.

 

Now I am a little late here, but I just had to respond to some idiotic stuff

Who would have thought that the large majority of American criminals, rapists, murderers, neo-Nazi's, hate crime's are done by Christians? You learn something every day

Oklahoma City? Columbine? does that ring a bell? no, not a church bell.

Exactly, you just prove yourself wrong. If there were any Muslims, then obviously this kid was just suffering from wartime stress.

Its no secret how many Neo-nazi's there are in the world. However, I don't 1000 threads about them.
Actually, Hitler was a Christian, even to the end. He certainly didn't practice any practices, as this shooter wasn't really a Muslim

 

are you serious?

 

Is he the only school shooter so far? Or all shooters are muslims? KelvinB you found the right time to start a thread!

 

http://www.livingstonemusic.net/hitlerandtheoccult.htm

http://www.stargods.org/Nazis_and_the_Occult.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_mysticism

Feel free to take two seconds to search for "hitler occult" on Google before asking if I'm serious. Just because someone professes to be a Christian doesn't make them one.

http://www.geocities.com/chiniquy/Hitler.html

Here are some thoughts from Hitler on Christianity:

He used religion only to control people. Eventually he wanted it gone.

All those "catholic" priests and "catholic" school children Hitler had photo ops with were not Catholic.