Making children more than the parents can take care of. Morally right or wrong? My input on this issue is: There are a lot of parents around the world who have 3 - 7 or more children, but they (the parents) are really poor and can hardly meet the ends. This type of questions goes sometimes as "taboo" questions since some may see it as discrimination against the poor. The truth is almost all people want to be raised in families where the parents are educated people who could be able to help their children get educated and become successful. Parents working 12 hours (to provide for their children) have almost no time for their children as a result the children get much less supervision from their parents and they grade worse than those children, who enjoy more parental care. What do you think?
I think this is one of those "taboo" questions that does need to be taken seriously at some point for long term human survival. Possibly the problem could be solved by more education. Look at Europe where countries like France have such low birth rates that they are actually worried about not enough children being born. People certainly don't like to think about the Government capping how many children a family can have (like China does) but if the problem can't be solved through education then there has to be some other solution. It's very unfortunate that the families who should be having the least kids are having the most and visa versa. That's because those with higher education (and more money) have much lower birth rates than those with less education (and less money.) Watch Idiocracy to have some idea of where this is headed... I'm only partially joking with that reference
The point is that the people should know that bringing more children in a poor family will just make it tough on everybody in that family. The children will be hurt the most since the parents won't have enough money to give them good education.
Thats just not true. I get more money from the government for every child we have. Obama is also putting in place a lot of good programs that will help my kids get a decent education and a shot at the American dream, regardless of my income level.
I really don't want to get to far into this, so I'm just going to say I agree with the first few posts and leave it at that.
I was talking about other countries not US. In US the big families get food stamps from the government, some just go on wellfare, and many don't even look for jobs. I was talking about poor countries.
I know what your saying but it is a natural reaction to poverty for some reason and I don't think any of us would be here without that particular mechanism considering all the famines and wars in humanities past. The thing is we (the species) don't get smarter by one of us reading a book, we get smarter from group experience and that takes time and many lessons to come about. We will learn one day but I think many will die before it happens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fertility_rate.jpg The way to look at this issue is exactly the opposite guys: When people are poor or religious (usually both cases fit together very fine), their cheapest mean of hapiness is: kids. If they have extra money to spend on luxuries, kids is just something that comes in the way of enjoying other immediate things in life. I mean, it is just human nature (see two above links): the poorer the country is, the higher the fertility rate, and not the other way around! (namely, not higher fertility rates leads to poverty) The solution: Improve the financial situation of the poor countries, get less births per woman. In the second link, interesting to see my country (Israel) considerably out of the graph. But this is misleading, because the society is very polar. Some people are very rich and have very little children (like in switzerland, 1.2 per woman), and the others are very poor and have 4.6 children per woman. Very little is between the two cases....
So are you having children just to get money? Because when you say stuff like your post above, that's exactly how it sounds. You mentioned this in another post as well and it's just disgusting how you think Obama was elected just so you can pop out kids and take advantage of us taxpayers. When you get more money back for kids you can't afford, that means all the other taxpayers are playing mommy and daddy to your kids by paying for them. UGH! (Your welcome for buying your kids food and clothes by the way) And this goes for everyone, not directing this towards Obamanation: I'll say what everyone else here is afraid to say: Keep your damn legs closed if you can't afford children. Or get birth control. It's not fair for us taxpayers, but especially NOT FAIR to the children you already have. I'm so sick of hearing people say "I can't afford to feed my kids" while they have one on the way. If you can't properly afford the ones you have, then stop having more! It's just like the women I hear that complain about useless husbands that can't hold a job, won't help with the kids, and acts like a 5 year old, but they keep having kids with him! What does that show your kids? Doesn't that affect the well-being of the kids you have already? The pill costs me about $10 a MONTH. I'm pretty sure that $10/month for the pill = THOUSANDS of dollars less than a child. Do the math and stop making me pay for your kids!
Lol go Firegirl, your username seems a perfect fit I absolutely unequivocally agree, the problem is such common sense is not common
So now I'm supposed to feel guilty for having kids? Wait a minute, I thought the right wing agenda was to feel guilty for having abortions... is there any way to get out of this without feeling guilt? Look, my wife and I find our children to be the most rewarding experience in our life. As another poster pointed out, this isn't Ethiopia, our children don't starve and will likely wind up with very good educations. I'm sure you aren't advocating anything so draconian as sterilization based on income level. We currently have 5 children, and I promise you we have no plans to have a child that wont be loved or provided for. It seems to me that all Conservatives care about is bombing some group of innocent people and get all wound up the minute this country starts to take care of it's own. If it weren't for the Democrats, my kids would be living on the street. How can that be good for the country?
It's morally wrong for me. In my country the Philippines, you can see that everyday in the slums but since we are a so called Christian nation. The church there is against the use of all forms of contraceptives and sex education in schools which is just totally ridiculous for me and it's the poorest of the poor who usually suffer. Our government is totally without a backbone and kowtows to these priest for fear of loosing their support during election. Those who are have lots of kids in my country should knock on the churches door and ask for financial assistance from the church since it chooses to abide on tradtion rather than common sense in this day and age.
Yes... they should know that. But they don't. People with greater education tend to be more thoughtful about having children when they are *ready* for them. That's why I think better education is probably the best way to solve this problem. Also a greater average standard of living. It's all connected. It doesn't do any good to say "these stupid poor people are poor & stupid." Yes. They are. But now what?
I disagree with you...If your parents make enough money and they don't care about you then that's how it is
Obviously it's morally wrong. There's no two ways about it. If religion disagree, it can go to the hell that it always preaches about to try and prove it exists.
I say forced birth control also give incentives for people with less children like tax incentives its the only way to control it. what I learned in my time in China was why they have so many kids and the answer made me sick to my stomach. They have no social security or retirement there so the kids are the retirement. It made me sick to think that parents would enslave there children like that but that's life. so give more money to those who have less kids this will help