Low Google results = Competitive niche?

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by courtney, Mar 13, 2006.

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    I'm interested in lots of niche topics but I'm not sure which one(s) to go with. One person I read said your keyword should return fewer than 1000 Google results, another person says 30,000 to 100,000 and another one says don't do anything under 100,000. And that's all before looking at # of searches, or PR or anything. So what do you think, how many Google results makes a keyword "too" competitive? Or does it even matter?
     
    courtney, Mar 13, 2006 IP
  2. MarceloRipaJr

    MarceloRipaJr Guest

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    competitive means that you have no chance of being number 1-10 at the serps (which usually means low traffic). well, no chance for at least for 1-2 years..

    but if you think about it, creating a site for non-competitive niche would also net you low traffic so it really depends on you what you want to do. :)
     
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  3. mhdoc

    mhdoc Tauren

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    I spent the whole weekend doing keyword research using all the latest and greatest tools and mostly got frustrated. Just the variation in reported number of searches from tool to tool makes me distrust any analysis. From sites I run I also know that clickthrough rate can vary widely, none of the tools predict that.

    I am almost back to my former strategy of throwing up tiny sites on subjects that interest me and waiting to see if anyone is interested.
     
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  4. Manish Pandey

    Manish Pandey Well-Known Member

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    Well it depends on you.... how much do you have... if you have 1-2yrs then go for more competetive terms and don't bother a bit on the competetion...your hard work will kick them away...

    Else go for less competetive terms ... but then you got to be more accurate to your niche... so that the people coming are coming to buy... as you can't afford to lose that small traffic...

    Manish
     
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    A good gauge is to look at the first page results for the keywords you want to target.

    Perform a backlink analysis, check their homepage pr, the number of competing webpages and the level of services each offer on their sites.

    If they have thousands of backlinks, a high page rank, high competition and a host of services you can never hope to offer from your site... it's a safe bet your site will not replace one of the first page entries. And that is the goal... to get on the first page which means your site has to be more of an authority for that keyword space than the results that are already there.

    If you don't think you have a chance to rank for that keyword try to niche it...
    eg. trying to get on the first page for a keyphrase like "web design" is nearly impossible at this point. There are a number of high ranking, high pr sites with tons of services, info etc on this topic on the first page (and the next 20 pages really).

    But, you do have a chance to rank for something like "toronto website design" or "website designers in toronto" which has lower ranking sites on the first page with less backlinks and overall the competition is much less.

    The keyword "toronto website design" is still about "web design" and could very well bring traffic and customers but attempting to target "web design" alone could have you scratching your head wondering how to compete.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    Not true, I made a brand new site and within 2 months it was in the top 10. 1 month it was on second page with very competitive keywords. :)
     
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  7. Manish Pandey

    Manish Pandey Well-Known Member

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    Well that's a very nice thing to be ranked so high.. but are you talking about the BIG G od MSN/Yahoo!

    Please be informative when giving some news worthy information... if it were in BIG G then you should certainly share the how abouts with all the forums members here... What is your site and what keywords did you target...

    Take care

    Manish
     
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    One of my sites has very low click $, but I do get a lof of traffics. I would definitely go for high traffic keywords.
     
    ken123, Mar 15, 2006 IP