Lose Sales if you have Iframe cloaking

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by eroker, Feb 4, 2008.

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    ok one of my sites has iframe cloaking. I direct them to my title site to mydomain.com, and it stays on mydomain.com while the clickbank url is in the frame. I have been successful in making sales. I have permission by my vendor to do this BTW. But clickbank has it agains there TOS, but I see others doing it so idk, anyways can you lose sales from this method? Like could I have more sales then I have now if I got rid of the IFRame and just used url redirection? meanin I would change it so it goes to MYDOMAIN.com then to the clickbank url on the top.

    Thanks and I really appreciate the help :)
     
    eroker, Feb 4, 2008 IP
  2. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    you shouldnt lose any sales doing this
     
    Swerd, Feb 4, 2008 IP
  3. infopage

    infopage Peon

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    I've wondered the same thing...I'm thinking that as long as you still see your affiliate id once you get to the actual secured clickbank payment page,it's straight.Below is the code I normally use to mask aff sites I'm promoting and mydomain.com remains:

    <html>

    <head>

    <title>WEBSITE TITLE</title>
    <!--incase they have javascript turned off-->

    <script type="text/javascript">
    <!--changes title bar to match title on current page in frame-->
    function changeTitle()
    {
    if (top.frames['main'].document.title)
    {
    top.document.title=top.frames['main'].document.title;
    }
    }
    </script>
    </head>


    <frameset>
    <frame name="main" src="http://AFFILIATEURL.COM" scrolling="auto" target="top" ONLOAD="changeTitle();">
    <!--You need the onload handler to make the javascript work-->

    <noframes>

    <body>
    We suggest you reload this site using Internet Explorer.
    </body>

    </noframes>

    </frameset>
    <img src=http://AFFILIATEURL.COM width=1 height=1>
    </html>

    The last line(<img src...>) you see is a tip I found out that sets the users cookie and not only does mydomain.com stay,but whatever title -which usually contains main keywords- I fill in stays as well.

    Anybody got anything else to add to this:confused:
     
    infopage, Feb 4, 2008 IP
  4. WayneB

    WayneB Peon

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    IE will block third party cookies (opening in an iframe makes it a third
    party cookie) from sites that have no compact privacy policy, but
    Clickbank has a compact privacy policy so there should be no problem.
    Clickbank's rules say opening a hoplink in a frame or iframe is not allowed,
    but I see many people doing it, and there are even scripts around
    specifically for Clickbank that open the hoplinks in frames, so I don't think
    there is any problem with doing this currently. I've used iframes with
    Clickbank and they seem to work fine, although I have tried the same
    thing with paydotcom and the cookie does not get created with their
    links. So it doesn't work with all sites.
     
    WayneB, Mar 2, 2008 IP
  5. reapr

    reapr Peon

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    I love it .. must be ok because everyone else is doing it with frames ! I can see the next threads in the coming weeks. What Did I Do CB Closed My Account!

    I am slowly moving my new stuff to other merchants. When this whole mess gets sorted out I may come come back with CB.
     
    reapr, Mar 2, 2008 IP
  6. WayneB

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    After seeing so many affiliates using other very questionable means of
    promoting hoplinks (cookie stuffing, advertising through Zango, etc.),
    I don't think using frames or iframes is that big of a deal and is not at
    the top of the list for something Clickbank is looking to enforce. I think
    they put this rule in place a couple of years ago when there was actually
    a problem with cookies being created when using frames, but they fixed
    that problem. If affiliates are opening the frame in an invisible window for the
    purpose of cookie stuffing, that is a different story and should not be
    allowed, the frame should be visible to their visitors.
    It will not help with SEO purposes because the search
    engines will not see the content within the frame. If affiliates are copying
    the sales page onto their site, that is not good unless they
    have gotten permission from the vendor to do so, many vendors do not
    look kindly to this type of thing.

    Here is a popular clickbank mall script that opens the hoplink in frames (the mod rewrite version):
    http://mj99.com/scripts/cbquick.html

    And there are several link cloaking scripts available that open the hoplinks in frames. A lot of
    affiliates are doing this to prevent many of the adware programs like Zango from stealing their
    commissions.
     
    WayneB, Mar 2, 2008 IP
  7. kingbrend

    kingbrend Active Member

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    I had some problems cloaking with iframes. I took it all down and I'm just using a php redirect and I'm actually having really good sales the past few days. Insane stuff.
     
    kingbrend, Mar 2, 2008 IP