Loose Change 911

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guru-seo, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #581
    The beauty of that closed "stalker" thread is, that it has made a tool out of so many.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #582
    Oh, I see, it does look pretty bad then.
     
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  3. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #583
    So what's your explanation?
    If you can explain it then I guess it'll put everything to bed and nobody will have to worry about it anymore?
     
    MattUK, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #584
    You're gonna get this thread closed. Drop it please.

    I did? Yeah, and 9/11 was a US/CIA inside job. It's amazing how these conspiracy theories start. BTW, what exactly is "concent"?

    You are such a tool man.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  5. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #585
    This thread'll most likely be locked too now...

    Mia, how has it made us tools?

    This is a matter for the police, not a dp mod. You deserve to be arrested for harrasement.
     
    SEbasic, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  6. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #586
    1: Huh? Did i use the wrong grammer or something? Is it not to "make" a picture and "made" a picture?
    Just continuing your prefered route by deliberately trying to find another meaning or better said deliberatly posing as not understanding the context of the post in it's whole.

    I'm not sure what your argument is really regarding "made" and how it's made.
    It is getting silly again GTech...

    2: Mia's admittal is sure enough for me. I suggest you read it very carefully since you don't want to see it in that specific statement and others.

    3: You read the thread and you will find enough instances of his admittal

    4: Do you really think it could be a coincidence?

    You have not presented anything to debunk my assesment so the ball is back in your court again Gtech.
    But by all means keep digging and look foolish in the process since you are doing a great job already :p

    @Mia

    I was warned?
     
    Edz, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  7. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #587
    Maybe having a Political Forum on DP isn't such a great idea afterall.
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #588
    Tool.

    You're gonna get the thread closed. Could we get back on topic?
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #589
    A mutual point of agreement.

    That's just it Matt, you can't isolate them from each other. I remember once Crazy Rob said he knew the difference between a muslim and a terrorist. Imagine if we actually had such an ability? The London bombers could have been stopped cold. But they were not. Just "regular" muslims, as many family members described them. There is no way to isolate. You either believe the quran or not. That doesn't mean "all" do everything in it, but you surely don't see much condemning when it happens.

    Right, but I wouldn't suggest that either. There have been cases in modern history where Christians have, albeit isolated and few/far between. It' not a moral equivalence issue though. It's not an issue of saying one is worse than the other, both are "just" as equal (which isn't accurate). It's what is taking place. It's a real issue that your country deals with, my country deals with and virtually every country deals with. The cartoon jihad was a sobering reminder.

    Unfortunately, it's not about what either you or I think it is. It is, what it is. Some suggest it's because of poverty, but the London bombers were far from poverty stricken. One of them had just received a new Mercedez Benz. It's not about money. It's not twisted beliefs, it's what the quran says. Some take what it says more seriously than others.

    Being aware of what they use to justify the acts they commit against others is not being against them. There's nothing wrong with being aware, and it's not politically incorrect to recognize such. To do otherwise is to dismiss the problem and sweep it under the rug and hope it goes away. Terrorism didn't start with 9/11. It was just another successful attack on a far grander scale.

    More and more people are becoming aware of the foundation from where so much terrorism is coming from. There was a time I used to fall into the category of people that would repeat what they've heard "islam is a religion of peace and tolerance." I wasn't into politics, religion or anything else prior to 9/11. After 9/11, I kept hearing the same thing about peace and tolerance and started asking questions:

    if islam is so peaceful, why is it responsible for so much killing around the world on a daily basis?
    If islam is about peace and tolerance, why can't Christians or other religions worship in Saudi Arabia and other muslim countries?
    If islam is about peace and tolerance, why do hadiths call Jews the sons of pigs and apes and offer every muslim a Jew to kill before the final day so that they can all go to paradise?
     
    GTech, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  10. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #590
    Maybe if you just explained it then it would all blow over?
    If it's all innocent then being so secretive is just going to make people think the worst.
     
    MattUK, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #591
    I'm not sure the Political Forum is the problem. It's the people in it, that cannot stay on topic, as well as in his dimension.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  12. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #592
    When did you say you were leaving?
     
    SEbasic, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #593
    I agree, just another "handful" of grenades to inaccurately describe sarin and mustard gas. Some things never change ;)
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #594
    There is nothing to explain. Someone claimed I was a stalker. It was a false claim, and the person who made the claim was called out. The vicious and defaming thread was closed almost immediately and the poster left the forums. Things were quite peaceful for some time during that period in his absence.

    Again, nothing much to explain. I'm really in no position to defend myself against the ludicrous claims of raving lunatics in an internet forum. I have a business to run, and other more important things to do. I could claim that "MattUK wears pretty pink panties and likes to poor John Smiths over his left shoulder on Tuesdays. That certainly does not make it true. But if you stumble across that claim in an internet forum, I guess that would make it true.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  15. MattUK

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    #595
    Thank god for that ;)

    I guess we differ here, you're right, we can't tell, it's impossible to tell what peoples inner beliefs are. Though I believe in innocent until proven guilty. If someone voices terrorist opinions or is caught in terrorist activity then come down on them- HARD, burn them alive if we have to. But we can't treat people as being guilty with no proof or reason. Just like you can't lock people up if you think they might 'become' a thief. Treating all Muslims as guilty of believeing in terrorism is coming pretty close to what you're looking to condemn.

    Yes, there's lots of different reasons, different people are motivated by different things, I doubt any of the 'minions', the guys actually putting their knecks on the line are motivated by anything other than religious brainwashing, naevity or just plain stupidity. The guys higher up the chain are motivated by money and power. The conditions that I mentioned were what I believe were what enable the current world situation to happen.

    Yes there has always been friction between Muslims and Christians, though in the UK and many other places there has between Catholics and Protestants that has led to terrorism. Christians and Muslims have coexisted before and can again just as most Catholics and Protestants do.

    But who justifys the acts. The 7/7 bombings in the UK were almost unanimously condemned by the Muslim community. Yes there were some idiots who praised them, though in my eyes (and many Muslims) those people are not Muslims and should have been deported.

    Is Islam responsible, or the people that do it in their name. I'm sure you (and I) would argue that Christianty is a religion of peace, but over history I'm sure it has been responsible for a greater loss of life than any other religion. It's wrong to fucus on the religion rather than the people, if anything it's making excuses for the terrorists.

    Good point, that's not something I'm prepared to defend

    Again I'm not defending the quotes, but a parallels can be drawn in any other religion of hated against others. Jews to Muslims, Muslims to Jews, Catholics to Protestants and visa versa.
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #596
    True, but then you couldn't link to a post of me admitting to buying panties and getting caght with them round my knees
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=914571&postcount=22

    I'm giving you the opportunity to explain, that's all. If you can't justify why then I guess I'd have to agree with the others.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #597
    Sure I could.

    Like I said, there is nothing to explain. I'd just suggest moving on. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, outside of the fact that it is, yet another conspiracy theory.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #598
    There will never be an explaination because any explanation makes him a liar and forces an admission of guilt. ;)
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    #599
    Then debunk it.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #600
    Debunk what? The rantings of a mad man? I'm not sure what you are looking for.
     
    Mia, Jul 25, 2006 IP