Businesscoach , it's NOT your thing to do no work on your part and let your money work for itself , hmm. if you wish then thank you for your time
You must post here to prove that you are not a scam, you dont have to disclose everything, just the basic idea of where our money would be going and what the return would be, maybe be a little more transparent about your identity too.
All the details would be disclosed via messenger , it's that simple , I am not a SCAM but if people don't want to take 10-15 minutes to find out what this is that can change thier financial lives , then thats their problem , not mine. thank you
actually i have LOTS of forms of passive residual income however they required time, work and more than $500 investment on my part. I get monthly income from these various places consistently...but... turning $500 into and EASY EASY $5000 is just not probable and doing so with NO WORK on my part makes it impossible if there was such a thing there would be no poverty. If you had such a formula, you would simply take 500, turn it into 5000, then split that into 10 sets of 500 and turn that into 50,000, etc etc you wouldnt be on this forum looking for people to give you $500
Quote: Originally Posted by ganpat Hey, he is on AIM messenger okay, he must be a serious businessman. I think that was sarcasm
YOU WANT OUR MONEY...so YOU need to take 10-15 minutes to tell us about it to see IF WE ARE EVEN INTERESTED now if you want a ton of people to IM you, offer to give $500 with no money out of pocket and no work...and I am sure people will be happy to take time out of their "busy" day. otherwise...your just offering one of the many pipe dreams found here on DP
again , stop spewing out your ignorance to my opportunity when you have no idea what is , and what are you , 60? the old phrase of if it sounds too good to be true , it usually is , is older than the hills and doesn't come into play anymore. stop trying to bash something that you have not looked into yet because I can promise you two things. 1. I make more than you ever will. 2. I don't need your 500 bucks. and yes , I am being defensive because you wish to try to make everyone else believe my opportunity cannot be done when in fact , it truly takes no effort on your part but you wouldn't know sitting behind your computer and badmouthing my program. thank you
I GROW YOUR BIZ is Business Coach [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:39 PM] ttechfs: Hello , this is ttechfs from the DP forums , I took it upon myself and the liberty to address you through messenger because you seem to have a lot of ignorance towards my opportunity [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:39 PM] I GROW Your Biz: uhm... [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:39 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so because im ignorant you want to talk to me? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i think everyone is ignorant about it, thats exactly why everyone is asking for more information [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:40 PM] ttechfs: Well , I am a business man , and if I see someone has no understanding or isn't clear on something , I try to help them understand [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: whats wrong with you giving details on the post? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: well you see a dozen people who do not have clear understanding [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: as a businessman you should see a demand (and dissatisfaction) in the marketplace [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and adjust to the market, not try to force them to adjust to you [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how many more people would have to ask for more details on the post before you were willing to give it publicly? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:41 PM] ttechfs: whats wrong with giving details on the forums is because I will be the first to admit that I used the forums for a spark , to get people interested , and once they are , they can take the time to seek me out , everything doesn't fall into your lap in life and I would expect people could take a little time and talk to me through messenger [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok well let me say your concept is good [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you did a terrible job implementing it [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: all you did was cause frustration, not curiosity [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and in the end, casted doubt on your opportunity and credibility [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] ttechfs: Maybe I did , but I was vague on PURPOSE in my point [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] ttechfs: *is [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so because you did it on purpose, thats all that matters to you [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: the fact it backfired, means nothing? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: it would be different if you had a name [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: hell even a higher post count than you do [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: but you are an unknown [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] ttechfs: Not really , I mean , I just I'd offer the opportunity on the forums , I know there a lot of users so It would get a lot of views , I can do other forms of marketing and getting the word out , but I chose this first[Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: offering and unknown to strangers [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how does that make sense? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: if i saw you on a street corner and said, hey i got an opportunity for you, come with me around the corner and i will show you...oh yeah...you got 500 bucks? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: lol [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: instead of being so focused on getting your point across [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or telling people what you want to know [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: realize no one cares about anythign except "whats in it for me" [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so tell people what they will get, not what you offer [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] ttechfs: you do know that the internet is the cyber world of street corners , right? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and communicate in a way comfortable for them [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: excatly [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so if no one would do it in real life, why did you expect someone to do it in private? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] ttechfs: because theres a reason they call it private don't ya think [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: if everyone is saying..."NO i will not IM you until you post more information" [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] ttechfs: private investments , private programs[Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] ttechfs: their out there everywhere [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and you INSIST they im you...who is the ignorant one...you or the peopleyou want as customers? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: in the end, they move on, spend their money elsewhere, and you are sitting around with your hands in your pockets with this "opportunity" [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] ttechfs: well , I'll tell ya what , you can believe me or not , but I make a good $7,000 per month with this opportunity and thats from me being in it for 3 months flat [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] ttechfs: and I did indeed start with $500.00 [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: if your opportunity is truly great, it will hold up to scruitiny..and there is no reason to hide it [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: that's wonderful news [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: congratulations [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: keep up the good work! [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so let me guess [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: its an mlm? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and you get money for recruiting people who pay $500 to get in? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:47 PM] ttechfs: Im not saying my opportunity is the opportunity of all opportunies , Im just saying it's perfect for someone who doesn't want to venture into marketing or anything and no , it's not A MLM at all [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok so listen...i got stuff to do [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so you can beat around the bush [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or tell me the opportunity [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i dont have time to play footsie with ya [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: whats the industry, the company name, the website [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: there..specific questions...if its legit you can answer right now without any more "hype" [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:48 PM] ttechfs: patience is a virtue my man , might wanna take that with you in life ,when you actually have time , let me know and we'll discuss this more in depth and detail , have a good day [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: yah...well, if you want everyone to give you THEIR money...ON YOUR TERMS [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you wont get far. [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: good luck trying to bully sales out of people, let me know how that works for you [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u reek of scam [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] ttechfs: Its worked for over 200 people so far , so I don't think im hurting ;-) [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: sure sure sure [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: prove it [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: if not, your just a 12 year old typing on his moms computer [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] ttechfs: I could , but it would end up disclosing their names , something I cannot do [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: awwwww [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how inconvenient [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: 200 success stories and they all want to keep it a secret [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: BWAHAHAHAHAHA [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] ttechfs: you sound 12 yourself pal [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u are used to dealing with kids huh? who know no better? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: the FIRST thing people do, is brag about their success [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: they don't "hide" it [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: yet again...red flag number 237....no references due to "privacy" [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so...i can't give you the company name, the url, tell you the industry [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so uh, hey [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: who do i make the check out to [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] ttechfs: Im not trying to brag or hide or do anything , Im just simply trying to tell you what my situtation is , sorry if it sounds hyped up or something , I don't mean to , because I hate hype as well [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or do i just give you my credit card number [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: want my social security num too? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:51 PM] I GROW Your Biz: if you hate hype answer questions instead of evading them [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so far, you have not answered ONE legitimate question [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how do you think that makes you look? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u hate hype? your doing a good job of it! [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] ttechfs: im not trying to , but you insist to me that you "don't have time" for this so , I was going to let you go until you DID have time [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i dont have time for a sales pitch [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i do have time for a NAME [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:52 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i may already know the opportunity, for all you know, i may ALREADY be doing it [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] ttechfs: my name? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] I GROW Your Biz: but you would rather waste both of our time telling me how "good" the opportunity is [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] I GROW Your Biz: listen i ahve made many people wealthy...i dont need the fluff..if its good, i will know in 5 minutes, i do this for a living [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so cut to the chase [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what is the opportunity [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] I GROW Your Biz: last chance [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:53 PM] ttechfs: what do you want to know exactly , shoot [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:54 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i already asked, but how abotu just this one [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:54 PM] I GROW Your Biz: since you forgot [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:54 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what is the URL to the company site [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:54 PM] I GROW Your Biz: dont worry, any affiliate IDs will be kept and honored [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:55 PM] I GROW Your Biz: well... [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:55 PM] I GROW Your Biz: still waiting [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:55 PM] ttechfs: one moment , I was busy with something else [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:56 PM] I GROW Your Biz: well it only takes a few seconds, matter fact it takes less time to put a web addy then to tell me you were busy [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] I GROW Your Biz: suddenly now your busy? oh sorry, do u need my CC first? [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] ttechfs: im sorry , I was clicking around in my e-mail and came across something important.... [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] I GROW Your Biz: again...lots of typing on your part [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] I GROW Your Biz: no answer yet [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] I GROW Your Biz: still waiting... [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM] ttechfs: biz op (http://dailycashfactory.com/) [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:58 PM] I GROW Your Biz: oh boy [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:58 PM] I GROW Your Biz: more hype [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:59 PM] ttechfs: no , not at all , I admit the site is hype , but the people are real [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:59 PM] I GROW Your Biz: uh huh [Monday, July 07, 2008 12:59 PM] I GROW Your Biz: there are always real people behind scams [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:00 PM] I GROW Your Biz: lol [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:00 PM] I GROW Your Biz: they are the ones who take the money! [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:00 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so how do u make money from the power closers? [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] I GROW Your Biz: http://www.thepowerclosers.com/ [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] I GROW Your Biz: the hype site sends me there [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] I GROW Your Biz: wheere does the $500 fee come in [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and how does that turn into $5000 [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i need the short version please as I have a coaching call soon with a client looking to make money [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:01 PM] ttechfs: alright , 1. the powerclosers are the meat of the program , they market to everyone , and use marketing dollars for this dailycashfactory site to get people interested... [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok so powerclosers is just a 3rd party sales group [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] I GROW Your Biz: the real opportunity is dailycashfactory [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what is the product that dailycashfactory offers? [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] ttechfs: the whole thing could be considered "3rd party" , no one actually OWNS this program , that would be illegal since it's cash gifting [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] I GROW Your Biz: cash gifting? [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:02 PM] ttechfs: no product because cash gifting is legal [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: actualy for NOW its legal [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: it is really the same as a chain letter [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or ponzi [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: but its a loophole [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: basically there IS NO PRODUCT OR SERVICE, you get paid by the people who come in after you [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: DEFINITION: PYRAMID SCHEME [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: this is why you want to hype a person first [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: this is why you cant give details [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: because its a scam [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] ttechfs: no , not at all , I get cash in the mail once or twice a week [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and you have to try to break them down to the point of being open to it being "legal" [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:03 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i am sure you do [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: PT Barnum said a sucker is born every minute [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: sooo.....i have no doubt you get cash for nothing [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: well have fin [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: fun [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i am not interested [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] ttechfs: your loss , later [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and will recommend others not get invovled either as it is unethical [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] ttechfs: again , your loss , later [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: no sir....your loss for being invovled in such nonsense [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: your moral loss [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: your loss of character [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:04 PM] I GROW Your Biz: your loss of integrity [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] ttechfs: please , when you can make as much as I do , then talk to me more , again , BYE now [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] I GROW Your Biz: thanks, but i will keep mine, and still make more than you [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] ttechfs: in your dreams [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] I GROW Your Biz: lol, you been at this what ...3 months and are happy about 7k? [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] I GROW Your Biz: kid you havent even broke the 6 figure mark, you got a long way to go [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] ttechfs: this is only ONE stream of income for me [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:05 PM] I GROW Your Biz: good bye
yes, spoken like a true scammer.... "oh thats OLD wisdom...you see in 2008 when things sound TOO GOOD TO BE true..its because they ARE true" PONZI's are ALWAYS a scam and at $7k a month...you make a LOT less than I do.
think what you want folks , but this business opportunity is real , you don't need morals in life to see it. don't let this person fool you and badmouth me , he can take his ball and go home. be smart. thank you
They are "ignorant to your opportunity" because you won't disclose any of the details. That's just ridiculous, it's more relevant than ever when strangers are offering a magic formula to make 5000k out of 500 bucks. If you don't need his $500 then why did you ask for it? Nobody is badmouthing your program, they just want a vague idea of what you're offering.
so after I blocked him ON IM....i get this! [Monday, July 07, 2008 13:11 PM] master675555: hey , when you start making $40,000 + per month , let me know , otherwise , break yourself. later I have morals loser. "break yourself"??? lol boy, teens these days! so now we know 2 screenames for this scammer... I think its time to give this guy red rep
i colorized the im for ease of reading if for some reason, you still think it is NOT a scam...talk to me and I will be happy to explain it and save you the loss of $500 and being involved with something SOON to BE illegal definitely will be shut down like the many before it for being a ponzi
That was the icing on the cake for me, You are so defensive about this it's un-true I have watched your comments and I for one do not want to be involved. 1. If you make more money than all of us ( which probably is not true, as there is a currency difference, and you dont know other peoples jobs ) Was there any reason for that comment, seems immature? 2. Anyone else who expected us to invest that kind of money, would have took time to explain this, you just expect people to come to you, Which really is plain stupid in my eyes. Im not flaming you, and I have nothing against you but your tactics are really bad, and no one and let me quote " NO ONE " is going to think twice about this, until you post more information. Though, you are so rich you wont need us to anyway
lol...if you want more information, scroll up and look at the IM convo I had with this guy. (in blue and red) HE IMED me...too funny
*chuckles* You're not much better, fool, with your ONLY 100 TO BE SOLD! and 9 copies left BS. You are entertaining, I'll give you that, noob.
wondered when our little sister would show up when you actually have something of value, with a money back guarantee, we can talk, until then...u can join your scammer buddy here..i bet your already in the program huh? ooooo....what a nice feature on DP...IGNORE! man I forgot about that, it's been so long since i used it. I won't see any posts or PMs from you any more YAAAAAAA!!!!!!1