I'm looking for some help figuring out some search results I see with my site vs several 'competitor' sites. My forum is primarily a youtube forum and was launched about 6 weeks ago. The 3 forums I'm comparing to are: A) youtubecommunityforum . com (PR=4, 54 backlinks) B) youtube.forummotion . com (PR=1, 547 backlinks) C) youtubetalk . com (PR=2, 20 backlinks) my forum) http://www.cyberstarforum.com PR=0, 221 backlinks) (backlinks per backlinkwatch.com) I believe all 3 are dead- the admins stopped posting years ago- in the case of the first 2, and who knows for the 3rd one- it's private and the admins never replied to approve my registration a few months back. When I google "youtube forum" (in quotes), I see the following results: A) Pg 1, #5 B) Pg 1, #3 C) Pg 1, #6 me) Pg 2, #5 not too bad, almost to page 1. But- when I google youtube forum without the quotes, I see this: A) Pg 1, #3 B) Pg 1, #8 C) Pg 1, #7 me) not in 33 pages of results So, my question is- what are the factors that are resulting in such a difference between me getting to page 2 with the 2-word quoted search vs not even on the radar with the 2 words individually? What do I need to investigate or improve on? Is it simply a matter of the PR 0 killing me? Or the time my site has been up? Or the fact the others have the word "youtube" in the URL? Again, these 3 forums are clearly pretty much dead, so no one is out there working on their SEO. I have the words "youtube forum" in my HTML <title>, and sprinkled around in text in the forums. As an SEO newbie, I'm just lookin for clues... Thx