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Discussion in 'Content Creation' started by 0ccul7, Apr 30, 2018.

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  1. #1
    Hello,

    I am looking for someone who will assist me in writing papers/articles/journals etc. Every single task will be different, so I expect a professional who is genuinely good at writing and delivering on time. Having the skill to research and construct a piece is imperative and I will not budge from my stance. Every piece of writing will be ran through an intense process of plagiarism checkers and manual proofreading. Keep in mind, your contract with me will be terminated the moment I find any sort of sly attempts of cheating.
    SEMrush
    Rate depends on your quality of writing, since most of the tasks will be easy to complete, with ample time given to you to finish (from a week to 3 weeks at times). Payment method will be Paypal. We can discuss rates and payment once I have cleared your writing to pass the quality evaluation.

    Message me or post here with any questions. If you are interested, please provide writing samples (Minimum 5). It can only be a page of writing per sample.
     
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    0ccul7, Apr 30, 2018 IP
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  2. Maershon

    Maershon Greenhorn

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    #2
    Context: I'm not being a dick. Your entire post screams that you're an amateur, and ends up being ironic because it's likely the reason you won't get the 'quality' writer you're after.

    What sort of business is this that you need to threaten writers? That alone would deter any with experience. Vet your recruitment process properly (like everyone else does) and cut the threats and you won't need to 'run through an intense process of plagiarism checkers and manual proofreading' because you won't end up with an idiot.


    More red flags: not stating a rate, saying tasks are 'easy'; 1-3 weeks to complete a task.

    'Rate depends on your quality of writing'
    By whose discretion? Yours? I advise you commit right now to setting up a structure where writers in your employ are paid a certain way (hourly, per-word, per project, etc) and a certain rate. That can change from project to project, but don't say 'depends'. No self-respecting writer would accept that, and I urge any newbies that may to do the same.

    'We can discuss rates and payment once I have cleared your writing to pass the quality evaluation'
    That's hysterically unfair. There's no point pitching to you without guarantee that your work is desirable -- you could be paying peanuts and we end up wasting time. State how much you're paying upfront in your listing. And here's an idea if it's peanuts: do the work yourself until you have the means and decency to pay writers properly, or state you're paying third-world rates and looking for writers in such countries.

    'Tasks are easy', but you won't give an inkling of detail. Again, the writer wastes time if they pitch to a job they wouldn't be interested in. Further, you claim to give writers 1-3 weeks to complete a task. In the context of you not saying what it may be, I'm under the impression that they're not the easy tasks you're making them out to be.

    Overall: potentially misleading and noncommittal, and I shouldn't have to say why that's a problem.
     
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    EspressoChick Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Maershorn - I think you're being just a little hard on this person, just my 2 cents. Maybe they've been burned before with a writer who delivered content that was plagiarized - that is my guess.

    If you want to hire a writer and are trying to figure out if they are good match for your project, here are a few tips:

    1. Ask for writing samples that are similar to your writing project. Say you want someone to do reviews of the latest sneakers. No, not everyone is going to have reviews of sneakers - but see if they have review - style articles to show you.

    2. Request several samples - like 5 or 6 not just 3. You'll get a stronger sense of their writing style.

    3. Look for a writer who can follow directions. You'll see sometimes on freelance job websites, the job description will say something like "include the word 'travel' when you respond or I won't consider your proposal" - they care less about the word and more that you are following directions.

    4. Be clear about what your project is. There is a huge difference between 10 articles to do and a 150 articles to do - but quite a few writers would still consider either to be a good-sized project if a client offered it to them. Most freelance writers juggle several clients and deadlines. If you are upfront about how big your project is and when you need content by, you help your writer(s) stick to your deadline.
     
    EspressoChick, May 3, 2018 IP
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  4. 0ccul7

    0ccul7 Active Member

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    #4
    Thanks Espresso.

    As for Maershon, thanks for your bullshit reply. I have hired a few writers actually, just from this post. Unlike most of the "writers" here, I need people who will not paraphrase from an article just to boost SEO. Trust me when I say this, I don't need your approval to be able to qualify my writers. I need people who can write me a paper on anything with the basic knowledge from their mind and not google. Hence the emphasis on higher quality gets higher pay. Pay has no limit. I can pay someone $100 for a 5 page paper if they write that well.

    The only reason everything is under the curtains is because I am willing to pay any amount to find quality writers. I don't pay peanuts to anyone unlike most over here lol. $2/100 words? I tip my writers more than most of you make over here. I just don't feel comfortable airing my laundry here for no reason.

    I was not threatening anyone. I need writers, not someone who has the knowledge to copy paste. I am under no obligation by the site rules nor anyone, to discuss my business model openly. You are interested? Send me a message and we will go from there. I am not doing anything illegal, but just don't want noobs like Maershon to flame my business model.

    Now, if you have anything constructive to say, please feel free to reply. Otherwise, try not to spam this thread.

    Thanks for the bumps though.
     
    0ccul7, May 6, 2018 IP
  5. Maershon

    Maershon Greenhorn

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    #5
    I pity those writers that have to work under you, though well done for scoring any at all. I'll be damned. Since you're so rich, however, could you consider throwing some dollars at one of the said writers to verify this? (Articulately, because I don't believe for a second you found someone that's not from the third-world.)

    Then vet your process properly and outline the type of writer you're looking for, instead of threatening everyone. You look like a lunatic. And yes, you don't need my approval, but you sure as hell need my advice. Your original post was godawful. Furthermore, if you're looking for people who can write you a paper without Google, then you need a specialist. Let's have a look at you original post, shall we?

    Where in the world did you state you needed a specialist? Your language suggests you're looking for a generalist. And what's more, here you say that you want people to RESEARCH and construct a piece. Why did that suddenly change to: 'I need people who can write me a paper on anything with the basic knowledge from their mind and not google'? Do you think it puts you on a pedestal?

    How about pay people enough that they'll be happy to craft each word and work on your paper for a longer period, which ensures you get quality? There's a reason your backward model of 'pay-per-quality' isn't done in any serious business. Nobody will work hard without knowing how well they'll be compensated for it. What's more, $100 for a 5-page paper is nothing exciting. My rates begin at £200 ($271) for a 3-page paper, and goes significantly higher depending on how much of a pain I think it'll be. You saying 'can' also tells me that's the upper bound of what you're willing to pay, so my theory still stands: you're trying to pay people peanuts, and 'specialists' at that, LOL.

    Bull. You won't even get 'quality writers' to apply with your original post, which is what I was getting at in mine. Yes, you do pay peanuts, and the portion of us here that aren't brain-dead make more than any writer on your payroll for sure. You've also said that you don't feel comfortable 'airing your laundry'. Are you serious? If you paid so well and were using job boards to hire writers (which you are), you'd be shouting it from the rooftops. It separates you from the low-quality curd. It's not 'laundry', it's pull factor.

    Closing thoughts.
    Thanks for wasting my time with your pretentiousness. If I came off as aggressive in my original post, it's because I was wroth that writers are constantly taken advantage of by people I thought you might have been like. Thank you for confirming my suspicion. You're an amateur and you're lying through your teeth.

    Get out of here.
     
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #6
    Maershon, I have no idea who you are and I am too busy to read all your BS!

    But what I do know is that the OP is genuine - knows what he wants - pays within minutes of article delivery...

    Plus which is relevant he pays top dollar for quality!

    Maershon, If that does not zip your lip - then please take your negativity some place else - Thanks!!!
     
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    0ccul7 Active Member

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    #7
    Thank you for your insight. I would say I will consider it, but I sincerely cannot. You are fighting me on something for no reason. I did not know about the terminology used here, such as specialist or what not. I apologize that my site slangs are not as strong.

    All I tried to summarize through my OP was, I need someone who can write quality academic papers. Period. What you call yourself or consider yourself is upto you. I am not here to fight you, but to find myself a quality writer. You just dissected the shit out of my words for no reason. If you really think you are a specialist, shoot me a PM with your skype and we can talk. Please do let me know who pays $271 for 3 pages, I am genuinely interested.
     
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    Maershon Greenhorn

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    #8
    I don't care if you consider it or not at this point, you've exposed that your budget is too low to get the quality writers anyway -- attempting to take my advice won't help you. What's more, you got one of your writers (I assume) to verify that you scored one through through this post. Unfortunately for you, I said they needed to articulate that properly and 'britishguy' did not. He can't speak the language or use idioms correctly, so there's 1) no way he's writing in English for a professional English-speaking company 2) getting paid well by you.

    Here's some new advice: have the bollocks to pay your writers a certain rate, say how much you pay in the job listing, and stop the goddamn posturing. I'm not here to fight you either -- you've just kept me around with your nonsense. And you don't need 'terminology', just say what you said before ('I need people who can write me a paper on anything with the basic knowledge from their mind and not google') and writers will know whether they're suitable or not. You're so goddamn pretentious it's infuriating.

    Lying again. You didn't mention anything about academic; you didn't mention anything about anything aside from threats. Nothing in your OP was concrete.

    You're not getting one, and I didn't dissect your words until you started lying. My initial response was purely advice-oriented.

    We've already established 1) you don't have the budget for a specialist 2) you're not even looking for a specialist -- you said you needed someone who would research and 3) I don't want to work or talk with you.

    If you want to know who pays that much https://www.haasonline.com/ does. And they paid me a LOT more than $271.
     
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  9. EspressoChick

    EspressoChick Well-Known Member

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    Oh Good Grief! This is ACADEMIC WRITING?!?!?!? So basically writing college & high school kids homework.

    I've never done it - but no, it doesn't pay well.

    He's also super concerned about plagiarism, because students can get suspended or kicked out of school for that (never mind that they shouldn't be buying their papers in the first place). But basically, he wants people who can research topics like
    an MBA student for 1 project and then a Biology undergrad for the next.

    I feel really bad for the kids who buy their homework like this - there are free tutors at most colleges & universities. Whether you are paying for your degree or your parents are helping, you should take this time to learn the subjects you are taking in school - and learn how to write a research paper if you don't know how to. Very, very sad.
     
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    0ccul7 Active Member

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    #10
    Not a single word I write nor anyone who writes for me go for any college classes or any classes or academic institution. Every paper is being used for the purpose of machine learning to learn writing techniques for students. Trust me, students won't be paying as much $$ as I am offering to just get paraphrased papers.
     
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    EspressoChick Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry I misunderstood Occul7!

    Thank you for explaining your project. That sounds very interesting. Wishing you good luck with your project! :)
     
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    #12
    A word to the wise if a writer submits samples be sure to protect them in some way so they cannot be copied. I've read horror stories of those looking for writers to submit samples. They get enough people to do that they have all they need for FREE!!!! A professional writer always has samples of their work. Writing a sample doesn't really need to be necessary. Someone looking for a writer can get an idea of the quality of the writer just by reading previous writings. Again be sure they are protected so they cannot be copied. If someone wants to be sure they have a writer that is experienced in their niche just request that in your ad. WHEW :)
     
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    #13
    yes, that is sound advice. I submit a short sample of say 100-200 words and not the whole article if a specific sample is required. That should be enough to give a good idea of your writing style to the buyer.
     
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    ofonespirit Active Member

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    I would't even do that just a snipet of something already written.
     
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    Buyers are not all that informed about the best procedures all the time. You have to find ways to satisfy their needs to see exact samples. And as you know it is not possible to write a full article for free. So sometimes you don't have an exact sample but you have written on the topic in general. So I use this way for a specific sample on the exact niche. Takes just 10 minutes.
     
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    #16
    Just from my experience, a lot of the writers here do not have a proper grasp over english, yet they send perfectly fine samples. I placed orders with a few writers here and that was the case. That is when I decided to pay Chirag to write me a sample.
     
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    #17
    Hi,

    I'm a content writer and SEO professional with over 5 years of experience. I have developed content for clients across domains like media, healthcare, banking and insurance, and industrial manufacturing.

    I have a reputation for being detail oriented, and punctual. I would like to work on this project. Kindly let me know the sample requirement.

    Regards,
    Kanhaiya
     
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